17 comments (as of this writing), and about 1/3rd are grayed-out due to down votes. Ergo, there are some pretty strong opinions about Vic.
Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company
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#52Sorry if I'm asking a stupid question, but: How come all these "internal memos" always leak? Is it fine to share an internal email without getting in trouble at a public company?
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#53Sorry if I'm asking a stupid question, but: How come all these "internal memos" always leak? Is it fine to share an internal email without getting in trouble at a public company?
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#54Re: Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company
#55Sorry if I'm asking a stupid question, but: How come all these "internal memos" always leak? Is it fine to share an internal email without getting in trouble at a public company?
In some cases, the wording is changed so HR can lock down who sent it out, and then discipline that person.
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#56It's a longer-than-twitter public broadcast messaging system/social network/photo sharing/single sign-on/half a dozen other things.
There's some great ideas in there. Having a subscription style feed of people I want to follow, and their long-form posts (including deep linking) is much more interesting to me that twitter. There's been some absolute gems posted on g+ that simply can't be represented on Twitter. But it falls down because all these important thoughtful posts are buried in my regular social feed.
Everybody seems to like the circles ideas for organizing our connections, that's a great idea I'm surprised still hasn't been really replicated by FB. But then I can't assert different public names/faces to different circles. So my work circle sees me the same way my demoscene friends. But I'd rather use a formal identity for my work friends and a goofy presentation of myself in the demoscene (with an old crazy picture of me from a party). But I really can't. Unifying my identities, along with my logins, wasn't a good idea. And thus I don't really use g+ for social network stuff because neither I nor most of my contacts don't really want to pay the switching cost from FB/linkedin/whatever else. So literally the major initial message for what g+ is when it was launched, I almost entirely don't use or get anything out of. I say this as somebody who really doesn't enjoy FB all that much, but recognize its importance in connecting me to people I know and want to keep in touch with.
and it goes on and on. Lots of good ideas, mucked up by bad execution and a muddled vision that doesn't map well to most people's needs. It seems like the pieces of the product that are the best bits, are the ones that are not as deeply buried into the morass. Hangouts is pretty good for example and usually works like I want it to (I usually only message people). But now I hear voice, which I use all the time, is about to get bungled up with hangouts. I bet I'll hate whatever the integration looks like. There are tons of people I use voice with that I have absolutely no desire to tie up with my google+ identity.
The integration is too tight. Rather than being a bunch of well branded products, all under a unified umbrella, it's like a bunch of products were stuck in a blender, ground up and then half-baked into a some kind of...whatever it is.
I think if you can't point at a product and describe in a brief sentence, it's too big of a concept and that will start infiltrating your development of the product. What is google+?
Why not "google+ personal news" and "google+ social network" and "google+ chat" and whatever else? Each of those is focused and simple and disjoint enough not to cause confusion.
Re: Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company
#57Why would someone leave a company immediately if it was under good terms? Or is it just the case that this wasn't public until today?
https://plus.google.com/107117483540235115863/posts/MFrDF3W4...
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#58> Former CEO Eric Schmidt admitted in an interview at the D conference in 2011 that he missed the boat on the rise of identity on the Internet. > “I clearly knew that I had to do something, and I failed to do it,” he said. “A CEO should take responsibility. I screwed up.” I think Eric screwed up in a deeper way that this quote admits. Google+ came up at a time of broader dissatisfaction with other social networks, pa…
I also think the real name policy is one of those things that we give too much weight too in analyzing the service. Lacking pseudonyms is not the reason "average" people have not used it.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because any more time the person remains there is giving information to a potential competitor (and there's no point staying if you don't want to be there anymore) I think Marissa Meyer gave Google a half hour notice.
Marissa resigned by e-mail and just didn't come into work that day.
Re: Google+ Head Vic Gundotra Leaving Company
#6017 comments (as of this writing), and about 1/3rd are grayed-out due to down votes. Ergo, there are some pretty strong opinions about Vic.
There A LOT of downvoting across all HN threads recently. In every single topic there are comments upon comments that are in gray and barely any actually deserving to be there. These aggressive downvoting sprees also seem to coincide with that change in HN stewardship from few weeks ago.