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Nobody lives here: the 5 million US census blocks with zero population

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Re: Nobody lives here: the 5 million US census blocks with zero population

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Move north. For this past long weekend I snowshoed into a remote lake and stayed in (and fixed up) a beautiful abandoned cabin. Ice fishing, star and northern light photography, wildlife viewing and beautiful sunshine. Didn't see a single person, and I would have been shocked if I did. I'm in the Yukon, Alaska is much the same.

How much "fixing up" can you do in a long weekend and still find time for all the other activities?

Fixing up is part of the fun.

Re: Nobody lives here: the 5 million US census blocks with zero population

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I did no such thing. I responded to someone's statement that he's a recluse with the suggestion that perhaps that's not a natural state. Somehow this is offensive? Then I went on to make what I considered a positive and constructive suggestion, that assuming I did not understand the person, he might look in places other than zero-population areas for suitable but more convenient habitation. I'm sorry you see that as…

The part that made your comment look foolish was the assumption that it was normal to want to live in high density populations.

An assumption I did not make. My statement about convenience was in reference to being around services central to population centers, e.g. medical facilities. Clearly most people here don't agree with me, but that does not justify projecting your own mistaken ideas about my position.

Re: Nobody lives here: the 5 million US census blocks with zero population

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Can anyone explain whats going on with Maine? It doesn't make sense for a coastal state to be so uninhabited.

I grew up in Maine. The area in green is rather rugged terrain. It's the end of the appalachian mountains with lots of sharp features cut by receding glaciers, then to top it off, it's very dense forest. Topo map (http://www.geomart.com/images/raisedrelief/me.jpg)

Large portions of that area are also owned by paper companies. They obviously use it for harvesting trees but also open it up for public use. That makes it sort of a quasi national park type area except that it's privately owned. There are also a lot of privately owned 'outdoors' cabins up there where hunters/campers go in the summer, and snowmobilers in the winter. Not many people 'live' there, but during some periods of the year there are a fair number of people around, particularly near the larger lakes.

It is a beautiful and relaxing area, I head up there once a year to go camping and 'unplug' from Boston for a week. It is somewhat refreshing to be 80 miles from the nearest paved road and 5 miles of canoe paddling from your vehicle.

Re: Nobody lives here: the 5 million US census blocks with zero population

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did no such thing. I responded to someone's statement that he's a recluse with the suggestion that perhaps that's not a natural state. Somehow this is offensive? Then I went on to make what I considered a positive and constructive suggestion, that assuming I did not understand the person, he might look in places other than zero-population areas for suitable but more convenient habitation. I'm sorry you see that as…

But why don't you think it's OK for the other poster to be a recluse? Like him, I quite enjoy solitude and that's one of the reasons I posted this. I spent a month working in a remote desert last year and found it the peace and quiet very restful, in contrast to the hustle and bustle of city life. I enjoyed the latter much more when I was younger but over time my tastes have changed. I see no reason for you to projec…

And I see no reason for you to assume that my concern for another human being is somehow projection.

You like being alone. Congratulations. So does he. That's great, and I never said it wasn't OK. I tried to make suggestions that people for some reason didn't appreciate; that doesn't mean I was condemning him or his lifestyle (or your lifestyle).

Anyway, this is past the point of productivity. I tried, no one appreciated it, and I'm not going to apologize for other people's uncharitable misinterpretations.

Re: Nobody lives here: the 5 million US census blocks with zero population

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Move north. For this past long weekend I snowshoed into a remote lake and stayed in (and fixed up) a beautiful abandoned cabin. Ice fishing, star and northern light photography, wildlife viewing and beautiful sunshine. Didn't see a single person, and I would have been shocked if I did. I'm in the Yukon, Alaska is much the same.

How much "fixing up" can you do in a long weekend and still find time for all the other activities?

I cleaned out all the junk, repaired the window shutters, hung some plastic to catch water drips, put a new sheet of plywood on a table, built a new "coffee" table, re-hung the door on it's hinges and generally tidied up.

Remember, the daylight up here is already 6am-10pm, so there is tons of daylight for activities, and lots of the cabin work can be done in the evening, when the sun is setting but it's not yet dark enough for Northern Lights photos.

Re: Nobody lives here: the 5 million US census blocks with zero population

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For the purpose of assessing how densely populated places are, this map is extremely misleading. A rural area with one farmer in each block will look just the same as a city, and both will look more populated than part of a busy highway or waterway with no permanent residents. It's mixing up information about the discretization with information about the population. It reminds me of those global statistics maps that always show Alaska as having the highest GDP in the world, or most of your website visitors, or whatever just because it's lumped in with the rest of the USA.

This 3D population density map is pretty nice although it seems to have larger blocks. http://undertheraedar.blogspot.com/2011/07/united-states-cen...

Re: Nobody lives here: the 5 million US census blocks with zero population

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Surely Alaska is the least densely populated state. 1.7 million km2, with a population of around 730,000.

To be precise, Alaska is the least _densely_ populated state, but Wyoming is the least populated state. Wyoming has a population of ~576,000, which is clearly less than Alaska's population of ~731,000 in absolute numbers of population. However, because Alaska is roughly 6 times larger (586,412 square miles vs 97,814), it wins by quite a bit on lowest density.

>Wyoming has a population of ~576,000

To put that number in perspective, I live on the border of Cobb County, Georgia, whose population as of 2012 is 707,442. This is one county outside the city limits of Atlanta (but not by much). While Cobb County is a metro Atlanta suburban county, it also has a large portion of semi-rural area. It blows my mind that more than an entire state's populace fits in a tiny (geographically speaking) county in a largely rural state.

Re: Nobody lives here: the 5 million US census blocks with zero population

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How much "fixing up" can you do in a long weekend and still find time for all the other activities?

I cleaned out all the junk, repaired the window shutters, hung some plastic to catch water drips, put a new sheet of plywood on a table, built a new "coffee" table, re-hung the door on it's hinges and generally tidied up. Remember, the daylight up here is already 6am-10pm, so there is tons of daylight for activities, and lots of the cabin work can be done in the evening, when the sun is setting but it's not yet dark…

I knew you had the sun on your side but I figured the lack of a Home Despot within snowshoe distance was going to be a killer. I know from experience that having to recycle/repurpose materials can triple the length of time it takes to complete any project and on top of that you have to factor in the working solo 50% time tax. I am impressed.

Was the door rehanging due to some sort of winterizing or bear-proofing?

Re: Nobody lives here: the 5 million US census blocks with zero population

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Idaho has over 9 million acres of inventoried roadless areas. The largest of which is the Frank Church-River of No Return Wilderness, which together with adjacent wilderness and forest service land constitutes the largest roadless area in the lower 48 at 3.3 million acres. If you love the great outdoors, I can't recommend this area enough. It is a real treasure.
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