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Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

7952 wrote: post #106
MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got some experience in the field as a consultant for a similar product called Alfresco, and I can see why it is such a big success. If there is anything that is much better, I haven't seen it yet. So: what collaboration tool would you suggest for the average corporate drone to use? And no, git is not an acceptable answer.

>> So: what collaboration tool would you suggest for the average corporate drone to use? And no, git is not an acceptable answer. Email + shared folder (as flat as possible) with rigorously enforced naming conventions. Clever features like search can be added with crawlers.

For me that would suffice - but its not the answer, I'm afraid. Management/IT wants to:

- have workflows, so documents can be approved among other stuff

- have document lifecycle, so they expire and must be reviewed after time x

- solve the Dropbox problem - how do you collaborate with external entities without compromising security by having users uncontrollably put stuff on Dropbox, because there is no other way?

- have automatic versioning

- be able to checkout/lock a file during editing

These are just a few aspects. You can do most if this by gluing stuff together yourself, but these are the constraints:

- be able to achieve all this with semi-competent IT staff

- seamless integration into the existing Windows infrastructure is a big plus

- be able to blame someone else if something goes wrong

So - what do you propose?

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by sesqu »

w124me wrote: post #69

Microsoft is not the only one. I had saved a special PDF with settings to full screen the PDF on open. I uploaded this to my Google Drive to transfer it to another machine and it completely reconverted the file into another type of PDF which not only corrupted the document but also broke the full screen open setting. This is a really random circumstance, but I was surprised to see GD reconvert the PDF, not store what…

Google Chrome used to corrupt certain PDF files if I saved them via the built-in PDF viewer. It still might, I haven't touched that button in a while.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by rbanffy »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #105
rbanffy wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone who seriously tries to make a company adopt Sharepoint should be fired on the spot, be it the IT guy, the CIO, the CEO or the chairman of the board. There is no possible excuse for that kind of stupidity.

I've got some experience in the field as a consultant for a similar product called Alfresco, and I can see why it is such a big success. If there is anything that is much better, I haven't seen it yet. So: what collaboration tool would you suggest for the average corporate drone to use? And no, git is not an acceptable answer.

I hear good things about Alfresco. I have a lot of experience with Plone, which is also a very good foundation for a corporate intranet. I've deployed it countless times in this scenario, as well as the back-end of public-facing websites.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by marshray »

Karellen wrote: post #82
wmgries wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This article is about OneDrive for Business, not OneDrive. OneDrive for Business is for business, as the name suggests. SharePoint maybe slow, but it does have features that users in business like, so having OneDrive for Business behave like SharePoint is fine.

So must mean it's just like the difference between Windows 8 Enterprise and Windows 8 Home, yeah? It's exactly the same thing under the hood, but the business edition just has a few extra businessy bits bolted on top, or possibly some restrictive anti-features removed? Because that's how Microsoft branding works, right? Right?

No, they're almost completely different under the hood.

[edit] On second reading, I see perhaps you were sarcastic. If so, well trolled good Sir! :-) I had it coming.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by kabdib »

jamin wrote: post #94
kabdib wrote: post #48

SharePoint has always been a piece of garbage. Unfortunately it's a money making piece of garbage, so there you go. Inside MS, SharePoint is often used to "track" project documents. Start a project and -poof- your most unfavorite PM has creates a procrustean bed of document folders, all set for you to lose your documents in because none of the categories match anything in the actual product. Like, having whole separa…

You are using a document management system to manage source code? There is your problem with this 'piece of garbage' right there.

No. That would be stupid.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by Karellen »

marshray wrote: post #114
Karellen wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So must mean it's just like the difference between Windows 8 Enterprise and Windows 8 Home, yeah? It's exactly the same thing under the hood, but the business edition just has a few extra businessy bits bolted on top, or possibly some restrictive anti-features removed? Because that's how Microsoft branding works, right? Right?

No, they're almost completely different under the hood. [edit] On second reading, I see perhaps you were sarcastic. If so, well trolled good Sir! :-) I had it coming.

No, thank you for being so gracious and understanding!

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by rbanffy »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #111
7952 wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> So: what collaboration tool would you suggest for the average corporate drone to use? And no, git is not an acceptable answer. Email + shared folder (as flat as possible) with rigorously enforced naming conventions. Clever features like search can be added with crawlers.

For me that would suffice - but its not the answer, I'm afraid. Management/IT wants to: - have workflows, so documents can be approved among other stuff - have document lifecycle, so they expire and must be reviewed after time x - solve the Dropbox problem - how do you collaborate with external entities without compromising security by having users uncontrollably put stuff on Dropbox, because there is no other way? -…

The problem with the semi-competent IT staff is that they are not immune to Microsoft's BS^H^H PR. They will really believe what the account manager told the CIO over dinner.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by natch »

mitchty wrote: post #63
hrabago wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just like "Plays for Sure(TM)," also from MS, worked until it didn't. Are you referring to unintended technical defects or DRM?

I think he's referring to when they made sure that "plays for sure" drm license/authentication/whatever servers got shut down so all the music you bought became a bunch of bits in a bucket.

Yes, the shutdown is what I was referring to, as you correctly inferred. Technically it may have all worked but when they pulled the plug on the servers, the value of any previous marketing assurances became clear.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by natch »

rsync wrote: post #59
lolnope wrote: post #2

Disappointing, but a good reminder to not trust 3rd party services with sensitive data regardless.

ssh user@rsync.net md5 your/file ... let's not paint us all with the same broad brush ...

You may be great today, but nobody knows what tomorrow holds. Therefore, I would prefer:

    ssh user@rsync.net md5 your/already/encrypted/file

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by slowmotiony »

rbanffy wrote: post #100
kabdib wrote: post #48

SharePoint has always been a piece of garbage. Unfortunately it's a money making piece of garbage, so there you go. Inside MS, SharePoint is often used to "track" project documents. Start a project and -poof- your most unfavorite PM has creates a procrustean bed of document folders, all set for you to lose your documents in because none of the categories match anything in the actual product. Like, having whole separa…

Anyone who seriously tries to make a company adopt Sharepoint should be fired on the spot, be it the IT guy, the CIO, the CEO or the chairman of the board. There is no possible excuse for that kind of stupidity.

Yeah, them stupid people over at Volvo, the Department of Defense, the marines, the army - all of them are clearly idiots! Everybody should just use git repos and use javascript webapps!
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