hacking != cracking
The Fall of Hacking
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#82I myself participated in the hacking cult noname123 refers to and i can clearly understand his statement.
If you haven't been there, you just can't get it.
"Get a `blog'" haha this is so freaking hilarious and irritating at the same time .. clueless people that have only recently started using computers.
IT today is all about a bunch of business morons abusing the poor text-based HTTP protocol, reinventing user interfaces rendered through an overloaded browser process. An enormous number of levels of abstraction just to display a single facebook button.
They insist on pushing it even further .. every single f day .. polluting the field with buzzwords, overaplying relational databases where they are actually completely useless! It's all about making simple things look complex, as more and more clueless people get involved in the IT "business".
Thank god we still have OpenBSD and Plan9 and the old phrack articles around.
PS: address space randomization is a lame-ass countermeasure.
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#83Oh kid... You got it completely backwards...
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#84Hear Hear !
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#85Hacking is far from being dead.
I would say that it has never been so alive and well since now is so much easier to find the information to get you started (and as a result it is no longer as elitist as it used to be).
What you're talking about is the stuff that goes mainstream.
If your references are newspapers, tv news and now even (most) blogs, you get a distorted picture.
Of course twitter is just marketing (and very little hacking). And that's why everybody knows it (and use it).
Real hacking doesn't break the news because few people are able to understand it. And journalists (sadly) aren't paid to understand what they're talking about or to spread knowledge. They're paid to sell copies (and/or ads).
It has always been like this.
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#86Those people are still out there; you just don't hear as much about Real Hacking as about more accessible, mainstream stuff. Also, get a blog.
I actually have a lot more respect for people who come here and type their heart out in the open for no other reason than bringing in content and sharing their ideas. Getting a blog is lame compared to that. You get a blog to get ads and attention and a following. On the contrary, noname123, came here, created an account, and wrote his/her heart out for nothing. Expecting nothing, wanting nothing except to be honest…
Perhaps you're looking in the wrong places.
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#88but I think you know what I mean
No, I have no idea what you mean.
it's no longer subversive.
It never was. Some criminal acts involved computers, I guess crime is subversive.
At most you could say there was little demand for hacking skills back in the day. Where's today they'll get a good paycheck.
It's hard to feel cool and subversive when you're paid well. Tough cookies kid, grow up.
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#89You've just hit the malaise called "the passage of time". Things change and things look different. This becomes upsetting if you stand still as you witness the passage of time. A lot of us have seen it in the music industry, remember the 90's where pop and porn pretty much became synonymous? Move sticks, find different communities. A change of scenery will help you find what you are looking for again.
Complaining about people talking business is in conflict with your IT department woes. If you run your own business you get to see the big picture. The reason you'll see so much "business" in hacking is because people grow up and need jobs. For hackers the BEST jobs are startups OR starting your own company. Think about it, would a rebel just take some random job or forge their own path?
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#90Nothing is permanent. I still remember the time when I got one of my first jobs for something like $30/mo. only to have an access to personal computer. I remember the first i486 PCs running SCO Open Server (what a mess!) and Informix, I remember FreeBSD 1.x.x and so on.
It was the golden times. Everyone on that field was a hacker. There was no such thing as apt-get or yum which were downgraded sysadmin's level to almost zero. There were even no ./configure && make && make install mantra and you were required to understand what you were doing and why.
But today IT is a mainstream and even in decline. It lost its novelty and romance decade ago, and people involved in it nowadays are mere ordinary factory workers.
Of course, there are still great engineers and programmers (not coders) around, and some new fields like ARM-based consumer devices emerged, but I think there are no such feelings like when you saw first ZX Spectrum or Atary or heard its 8-bit sound.