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Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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3825 wrote: post #25
0x0 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's absolutely inexcusable to modify .php source code files for this though! Wonder if it would modify files in a git repository in the same way? Good luck recovering from that!

From my bad experience, Git repositories (and I would go as far as to say any source code) does not belong on SkyDrive/OneDrive. This is OneDrive, not the newfangled Hailstorm by architecture astronauts[0]. I would recommend that everyone keep working copy of their source code outside of any form of syncing. If you must, create tape archives (or 7z or something) and sync them but never your working copy. [0] http://w…

Good to know one shouldn't treat the OneDrive as a... Drive.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by 0x0 »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #30
0x0 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's absolutely inexcusable to modify .php source code files for this though! Wonder if it would modify files in a git repository in the same way? Good luck recovering from that!

git reset? I can't imagine any way in which it would destructively modify the files under objects/

Why not? The article claimed it modified a .php file. So I'm curious to know if it would modify the equivalent file under .git/objects?

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by shurcooL »

aryastark wrote: post #27
robododo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"OneDrive for Business" is a branding disaster, as it creates a completely rational link in people's minds that it's the same as OneDrive. In reality, it's a completely different product that acts in different ways. Sigh.

It's amazing how wrong companies can get marketing. Take Apple's AirDrop, for example. I spent 20 minutes one day wondering why my iPhone wasn't connecting to my Mac Mini. Turns out, "AirDrop" is two different things by the same company that are similar but completely incompatible.

Yeah, I hope they improve and fill the gaps in current AirDrop and AirPlay. It has come a long way, but there's still room for improvement.

Namely, AirPlay between OS X devices and iOS devices (including just audio and both audio+video), in either direction. Here's hoping for OS X 10.10.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by dsl »

0x0 wrote: post #31
3825 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my bad experience, Git repositories (and I would go as far as to say any source code) does not belong on SkyDrive/OneDrive. This is OneDrive, not the newfangled Hailstorm by architecture astronauts[0]. I would recommend that everyone keep working copy of their source code outside of any form of syncing. If you must, create tape archives (or 7z or something) and sync them but never your working copy. [0] http://w…

Good to know one shouldn't treat the OneDrive as a... Drive.

OneDrive is a drive as you would expect. OneDrive for Business is really SharePoint. Terrible branding.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by [deleted] »

robododo wrote: post #13
danbruc wrote: post #6

IIRC OneDrive for Business is not your average cloud storage but build on top of SharePoint (unlike the normal OneDrive). Therefore this might be some kind of side effect due to way SharePoint handles documents and document versioning. It is definitely unexpected behavior but this might be a reason explaining it without bad intent on Microsoft's side.

"OneDrive for Business" is a branding disaster, as it creates a completely rational link in people's minds that it's the same as OneDrive. In reality, it's a completely different product that acts in different ways. Sigh.

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Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by borrowedtime »

higherpurpose wrote: post #15

They'll probably blame this one on an "error" again, like how they did when it was found out that Skype was MITM-ing https links, or when Bing was censoring stuff from China globally , and even in English, and in a couple of other cases I don't remember well right now. That seems to be their boilerplate PR response whenever some big privacy infringement happens and many are outraged about it.

Yea, but of course the microsoft happy bunnies will go on defending them like the morons they are.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by jongalloway2 »

3825 wrote: post #25
0x0 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's absolutely inexcusable to modify .php source code files for this though! Wonder if it would modify files in a git repository in the same way? Good luck recovering from that!

From my bad experience, Git repositories (and I would go as far as to say any source code) does not belong on SkyDrive/OneDrive. This is OneDrive, not the newfangled Hailstorm by architecture astronauts[0]. I would recommend that everyone keep working copy of their source code outside of any form of syncing. If you must, create tape archives (or 7z or something) and sync them but never your working copy. [0] http://w…

I've kept most of my Git repos in my OneDrive for the past few years. It's worked great.

As many others have said, OneDrive For Business is really more of a SharePoint + Groove document sharing / collaboration thing for businesses documents (as the name kind of implies). While it does similar things from a generic corporate user point of view, the mechanics are pretty different. OneDrive For Business works well for the same kinds of use cases that SharePoint does (mostly documents), but I wouldn't put source code in there.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by danso »

danbruc wrote: post #6

IIRC OneDrive for Business is not your average cloud storage but build on top of SharePoint (unlike the normal OneDrive). Therefore this might be some kind of side effect due to way SharePoint handles documents and document versioning. It is definitely unexpected behavior but this might be a reason explaining it without bad intent on Microsoft's side.

Yeah I can completely believe that this would be an unintended technical side effect, a consequence of trying to mitigate some other kind of difficulty that Microsoft's broad userbase might run into. Kind of reminds me of Excel's propensity to helpfully (and destructively) convert dates and zero-padded-numbers upon import.

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by emeraldd »

marshray wrote: post #23
danbruc wrote: post #6

IIRC OneDrive for Business is not your average cloud storage but build on top of SharePoint (unlike the normal OneDrive). Therefore this might be some kind of side effect due to way SharePoint handles documents and document versioning. It is definitely unexpected behavior but this might be a reason explaining it without bad intent on Microsoft's side.

Microsoft employee here, not speaking for the company just my own perspective. I work in Azure, but not on this stuff specifically. Sharepoint has its origins in managing collections of MS Office documents more so than HTML and browsers. It knows about certain document types and tries to do intelligent things with them. It's not necessarily the tool you would use for serving raw data over HTTP with arbitrary Content-…

"It knows about certain document types and tries to do intelligent things with them."

There's your problem right there ....

Re: Microsoft OneDrive for Business modifies files as it syncs

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Post by jmspring »

0x0 wrote: post #29
gagaga wrote: post #28

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Surface RT is now just Surface.

The whole RT thing sounds like a joke. Even on wikipedia there's a circular link collection on top of each of those articles, "WinRT, not to be confused with Windows RT, not to be confused with Windows Runtime, ..." Btw, I just noticed that the old Surface is now known as PixelSense. Makes sense.

Um, no. Pixelsense is technology behind touch, gestures, and similar. Take a look at:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/pixelsense/pixelsense.aspx

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