Build Tools – Make, no more
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Build Tools – Make, no more
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Re: Build Tools – Make, no more
#2Misses the fundamental point that Make is broken for so many things. To begin with you have to have a single target for each file produced. Generating all the targets to get around this is a nightmare that results in unreadable debug messages and horribly unpredictable call paths.
nix tried to solve much of this, but I agree it can't compete with the bazillion other options.
Re: Build Tools – Make, no more
#3Dunno if the owner of the site will read this, but here's a tip. Don't show a full screen overlay telling me how my visit would be better with cookies enabled.
1) I have cookies enabled. 2) The Eurpoean law is daft, but since you feel you must comply do it in a more user friendly way.
Re: Build Tools – Make, no more
#4I'm unreasonably fond of Ant - there's plenty of scope for pointless clever-dickery, and there are days where that's all that keeps me going!
Nice to see it mentioned in a context other than "oh god what a mess"... even though, in fairness, many aspects of it are a complete dog's dinner.
Re: Build Tools – Make, no more
#5Dunno if the owner of the site will read this, but here's a tip. Don't show a full screen overlay telling me how my visit would be better with cookies enabled. 1) I have cookies enabled. 2) The Eurpoean law is daft, but since you feel you must comply do it in a more user friendly way.
Is there a nice JS lib to detect and put up an unobtrusive hover-over popup in the bottom corner or something? Would that satisfy Euro law?
Re: Build Tools – Make, no more
#6Why would you need Grunt just to compile LESS?
Re: Build Tools – Make, no more
#7Misses the fundamental point that Make is broken for so many things. To begin with you have to have a single target for each file produced. Generating all the targets to get around this is a nightmare that results in unreadable debug messages and horribly unpredictable call paths. nix tried to solve much of this, but I agree it can't compete with the bazillion other options.
It does not miss it, just ignores it. The author states that there are lots of things we can improve but the point is that we have too many variations on the theme without converging to a solution that has few (or no) dependencies and comes with built-in build knowledge and the ability to discover what you want rather than make you declare it.
Such a tool should be: - Zero (or few) dependencies. Likely written in plain C (or C++, D, Rust) and compiled to distribute in binary form. - Cross-platform - Support any mix of project languages and build tasks. - Recognizes standard folder hierarchies for popular projects. - Easy enough to learn. Not overly verbose (looking at you, XML). Similar to Make if possible.
Examples of the auto-discovery: It can find "src", "inc", and "lib" directories then look inside and see .h files then make some educated guesses to build the dependency tree of header and source files (even with mix of C and C++). Or it could see a Rails app and figure out to invoke the right Rake commands, perhaps checking for the presence of an asset pipeline etc. Or a Node.js project. It could check for GIT or SVN and make sure any sub-modules have been checked out.
Re: Build Tools – Make, no more
#8Dunno if the owner of the site will read this, but here's a tip. Don't show a full screen overlay telling me how my visit would be better with cookies enabled. 1) I have cookies enabled. 2) The Eurpoean law is daft, but since you feel you must comply do it in a more user friendly way.
Hmm, maybe the overlay changed since you posted (11 minutes ago), but all I see is a sticky-slim footer with the cookie mention.
I've always liked how rockpapershotgun.com does it...it also uses a sticky-slim footer, but the text reads: "Rock Paper Shotgun uses cookies. For some reason we are now obliged to notify you of this fact. Not that you care"
Re: Build Tools – Make, no more
#9Dunno if the owner of the site will read this, but here's a tip. Don't show a full screen overlay telling me how my visit would be better with cookies enabled. 1) I have cookies enabled. 2) The Eurpoean law is daft, but since you feel you must comply do it in a more user friendly way.
Hmm, maybe the overlay changed since you posted (11 minutes ago), but all I see is a sticky-slim footer with the cookie mention. I've always liked how rockpapershotgun.com does it...it also uses a sticky-slim footer, but the text reads: "Rock Paper Shotgun uses cookies. For some reason we are now obliged to notify you of this fact. Not that you care"
I had the same full-screen thing on mobile; on the desktop it's indeed as you described.
Re: Build Tools – Make, no more
#10Dunno if the owner of the site will read this, but here's a tip. Don't show a full screen overlay telling me how my visit would be better with cookies enabled. 1) I have cookies enabled. 2) The Eurpoean law is daft, but since you feel you must comply do it in a more user friendly way.
Is there a nice JS lib to detect and put up an unobtrusive hover-over popup in the bottom corner or something? Would that satisfy Euro law?
> Would that satisfy Euro law?
Note that this doesn't exist. Only local law could force sites to implement this, and afaik only the UK had a defunct specification of something like that they did'nt even follow for government pages. So, just the usual law craze.
> Is there a nice JS lib to detect and put up an unobtrusive hover-over popup in the bottom corner or something?
Well, I don't know if this is nice enough as I didn't use it, but it looks ok: http://sitebeam.net/cookieconsent/