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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by sandGorgon »

tcfunk wrote: post #71
sandGorgon wrote: post #15

I really recommend trying out the Ubuntu Gnome flavor [1] - I really like it as being more usable than Unity. Plus https://extensions.gnome.org/ is incredible. P.S. - [2] this is my personal optimization script for a lean and developer friendly Gnome Ubuntu 14.04 install. YMMV. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME [2] https://gist.github.com/sandys/6030823#file-lean_install_ubu...

Giving it a try now, but I have to say the amount of space wasted by the header bar of each window really bothers me. Example: http://i.imgur.com/bKGyEo3.png

there you go - https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/354/maximus/

FTFY

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by sandGorgon »

girvo wrote: post #31
sandGorgon wrote: post #22

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it's mostly the UX - I really like the way Gnome gets out of your way and still is very, very slick. Plus, if you dont like certain things - you can customize it within seconds using extensions.gnome.org (for example - https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/ ) I think all the design decision by Unity are a bit jarring for me - including all the left-window-close-maximize things. BTW, if you follow my…

I'm totally with you on most of your post... But how is Gedit "heavy"?

I'm not sure what was happening, but I used to have many gedit processes running in the background. Geany is much, much lighter for me.

Same with Nautilus.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by sandGorgon »

wolf550e wrote: post #47
sandGorgon wrote: post #15

I really recommend trying out the Ubuntu Gnome flavor [1] - I really like it as being more usable than Unity. Plus https://extensions.gnome.org/ is incredible. P.S. - [2] this is my personal optimization script for a lean and developer friendly Gnome Ubuntu 14.04 install. YMMV. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME [2] https://gist.github.com/sandys/6030823#file-lean_install_ubu...

You should install http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/localepurge for a leaner install.

my recipe for leaner is more about CPU and RAM and less about diskstorage.

One of the first things I recommend is aptitude over apt-get and that manages your stale packages much better. (for e.g. aptitude will offer to remove unused packages each time you remove an installed package, whereas apt-get will only do that if explicitly asked to with apt-get autoremove.)

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by danoprey »

macco wrote: post #143
arjunnarayan wrote: post #134

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No, there's plenty of us who feel that way: I (and most of the people I work with) just use OS X on the desktop, and Linux on servers. This way you get the perfect desktop environment that "just works". The linux boxes never have a window manager installed in the first place.

How is OS X more "just works" than a clean Ubuntu install? And both are far from perfect.

Yeah, I really don't understand why this OSX monopoly on "just works" still persists. A plain old Ubuntu install just works, lots of Linux distros do, but if you want the additional customisation, it's there.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by danoprey »

krisgenre wrote: post #120
samolang wrote: post #52

The first comment I saw said it was impressive. The second said I should use Gnome instead of Unity. The third said I should try something called localepurge for a leaner install. The fourth said KDE was better than Gnome and Unity. The fifth recommended Xubuntu over Gnome. This is the sort of fragmentation that makes popular adoption difficult, but is also what makes Linux awesome.

I was once a big fan of KDE. Of late, it has started becoming fancier and fancier and I got fed up of the fanciness. On the other hand I used to hate unity when it came out but go so much used to the unified menu bar that I have never been able to use anything else. So far the only other serious contender seems to be elementary OS, it is the BEST looking linux distro.

Ubuntu is still the best looking distro to me, particularly after a bit of customisation. Elementary just looks like a cheap OSX skin for Linux.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by DanBC »

danoprey wrote: post #155
krisgenre wrote: post #120

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I was once a big fan of KDE. Of late, it has started becoming fancier and fancier and I got fed up of the fanciness. On the other hand I used to hate unity when it came out but go so much used to the unified menu bar that I have never been able to use anything else. So far the only other serious contender seems to be elementary OS, it is the BEST looking linux distro.

Ubuntu is still the best looking distro to me, particularly after a bit of customisation. Elementary just looks like a cheap OSX skin for Linux.

What parts do you think contribute to looking nice? (I am more interested in things that look nice before customization).

Is this a case of better defaults? Or is it just as simple as different themes and window managers?

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by danoprey »

DanBC wrote: post #156
danoprey wrote: post #155

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Ubuntu is still the best looking distro to me, particularly after a bit of customisation. Elementary just looks like a cheap OSX skin for Linux.

What parts do you think contribute to looking nice? (I am more interested in things that look nice before customization). Is this a case of better defaults? Or is it just as simple as different themes and window managers?

Personally, I don't think Windows 8, OSX, or Ubuntu look nice out the box. They're all pretty average, but I think Ubuntu defaults with the overall look and feel is the most pleasant. The Unity sidebar and blurred glass search background is much better looking than the boring startmenu/metro or tacky faux 3d launcher and grey gradients all over the place. Granted, it's been a while since I have seen the default.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by cerberusss »

danoprey wrote: post #154
macco wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is OS X more "just works" than a clean Ubuntu install? And both are far from perfect.

Yeah, I really don't understand why this OSX monopoly on "just works" still persists. A plain old Ubuntu install just works, lots of Linux distros do, but if you want the additional customisation, it's there.

Except when you have some graphics card on dual monitors. Or you want your laptop to sleep and wake up. Or when you have some funky WLAN card.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by macco »

cerberusss wrote: post #158
danoprey wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I really don't understand why this OSX monopoly on "just works" still persists. A plain old Ubuntu install just works, lots of Linux distros do, but if you want the additional customisation, it's there.

Except when you have some graphics card on dual monitors. Or you want your laptop to sleep and wake up. Or when you have some funky WLAN card.

What has this to do with the desktop environment.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by manish_gill »

taeric wrote: post #101
manish_gill wrote: post #99

Meh, after struggling with linux for years , I finally swallowed my pride and paid a hefty price for a Macbook Air. Best decision I ever made. OS X hasn't disappointed me yet. I don't have to worry about driver/sound problems or incompatible libraries every other week.

Meh, after using linux for years , I have yet to see all of the trouble that many folks keep referring to in getting it to work. Different strokes...

Just take a look at the top post in this thread.

You haven't seen any of those problems, good for you. But the fact is that a lot of people do see them, which is the reason people give out for Linux being hard to use. I mean, Ubuntu is supposed to represent Linux for the average user, and look at the state of Unity, Gnome2/3 divide, Pulseaudio or Alsa? So on and so fourth...

I used to be one of those guys who made faces at OS X being all expensive and why would I use that when I can get the same thing to work with Linux. But the fact of the matter is, it does make a difference. A LOT of difference. I can still drop into Linux. I don't regret moving away from it one bit.

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