Why are people running OS upgrades on live production servers the day after release? Who does that? It's defiantly not people who care about stability. If you run into issues HN is probably not the right place to share them...
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
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What issues did you experience going from XP to 7? Did it happen to involve network drivers?
I can't speak for them, but I think a lot of people upgrading from XP to 7 are going to have to upgrade hardware for it to even be worth it unless you were already on a fairly high end XP box. I think 7 can be optimized to run on lower end hardware, but it takes a lot of work. The main beef I have with upgrading Windows though is the time it takes to do so. A while ago I updated someones PC from XP to 7 and when it r…
Did you start with the latest service pack? It sounds like you started from a virgin disk which can take a while after years of update releases.
Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
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As a data point for a bystander: I much prefer Unity over Gnome 3. Here's the quick list of things that prevent me from taking Gnome 3 seriously: Alt+Tab is completely broken: it gathers windows from all virtual desktops, ruining the very purpose of virtual desktops. There are plug-ins that help, but they keep breaking after version updates and they don't function as sleek as Unity's built-in default window switcher.…
1. Alt+Tab is completely broken - in fact you have a choice on how you want the alt-tab to work: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/ or https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/38/windows-alt-tab/ or https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/97/coverflow-alt-tab/ or https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/310/alt-tab-workspace... 2. static workspace - this is actually fixed in 3.10 (part of 14.04) now.…
I've been using 3.12 with 14.04 beta2(using the gnome staging ppa). I can't say it's very different from 3.10, but it feels a bit faster, and they fixed a few UX problems in the settings menus etc. Most extensions I wanted work with it. There are a few bugs that are probably due to working with an unstable distro with an unstable gnome ppa, but overall it's nice.
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Most HN readers are developers (who all have unique and specific tastes in their machine setup), and have enough experience with Linux to find it easy to install alternative window managers. For "popular adoption", I'm sure the completely standard Ubuntu install is just fine.
I sometimes feel like I'm the only developer who doesn't want to spend all his free time fiddling around with his operating system. To me, that's not developing. It's just extra work that's completely orthagonal to building cool software.
No, there's plenty of us who feel that way: I (and most of the people I work with) just use OS X on the desktop, and Linux on servers. This way you get the perfect desktop environment that "just works". The linux boxes never have a window manager installed in the first place.
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#135I really recommend trying out the Ubuntu Gnome flavor [1] - I really like it as being more usable than Unity. Plus https://extensions.gnome.org/ is incredible. P.S. - [2] this is my personal optimization script for a lean and developer friendly Gnome Ubuntu 14.04 install. YMMV. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME [2] https://gist.github.com/sandys/6030823#file-lean_install_ubu...
Giving it a try now, but I have to say the amount of space wasted by the header bar of each window really bothers me. Example: http://i.imgur.com/bKGyEo3.png
The header bars finally see more use in 3.12; for Firefox, I'd recommend something like HTile, which removes the header when it's maximized.
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Sadly, synapse is orphaned, Kupfer hasn't had a commit in over a year and GNOME-Do is going nowhere since GNOME Shell does the same thing by itself. One thing that's kept me from more minimal environments than those with their own launcher is that's there's just no really good standalone launcher.
Synapse may not have an active upstream any more, but, well, the Ubuntu package is still well-maintained (in the synapse-core/testing ppa), and it does everything I need it to. An aversion to orphaned software is clearly good for things at a security boundary (web browsers, sshd, etc), but is it really an issue for a launcher? In 3-5 years it may not be good enough, but shrug, if that's the case I'll have another loo…
This is my attitude as well pretty much.
If synapse ever stops doing what I want I'll probably take a stab at writing one.
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You give zero arguments for what you consider wrong with the visual style of Ubuntu. I'm sure there are flaws that graphic designers and other people trained in the topic can point out, but until you do it's just... yeah, well, like... your opinion man. And the lack of a flat UI does not count as an argument - that's just a fashion trend. Also, my own anecdotal experience does not match yours. I often get surprised (…
Interestingly though, it seems perfectly acceptable on here to express positive feelings about style and esthetics. No one gets downvoted several points below zero for not providing "arguments" for such opinions. It's simply accepted as a matter of taste.
That's probably because negativity is not something that should be encouraged. If you want to be negative, then that's fine - but you really need to explain why you are being negative.
Negative energy is quite unproductive.
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#138nvidia and linux just don't seem to work together. I've been on 13.10 and looking forward to an upgrade in the hope that it might fix the problem where compiz freezes up the window manager for minutes on end. Linux with nvidia is about as unreliable as using windows which is very frustrating.
Anyone know if 14.10 works better with nvidia cards?
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#139As someone who just installed the beta 2 on my laptop a few days ago, I have to say I'm impressed. This thing cold boots on my non-UEFI laptop in 4-5 seconds. That's at the same level as Windows 8.1, which also impressed me greatly. Now if they can only get systemd and the "online in 50ms" updates implemented, this thing will be super-sweet.
BTW I wonder why cold-boot time is so important. All my machines go back from hibernation pretty fast (in under a second), and I only cold-boot if I update something major, like the kernel or the hardware itself. What's the point to shut down your machine, and either lose your session or wait considerable time while it restores?
The biggest speed-up to my cold-boot time was when I switched to SSD - time from grub to login screen is now just a few seconds. Interestingly, that changed my usage habits; I started shutting down my laptop more often and therefore had fewer problems with peripherals not initialising properly after waking from hibernate (eg sometimes my touchpad would move the mouse pointer rotated at 90 degrees), but mostly I started booting into my Windows partition more often instead of using Wine etc to try to run programs. A faster boot time made it more trivial to switch between boot options, which I see as a good thing.
Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
#140nvidia and linux just don't seem to work together. I've been on 13.10 and looking forward to an upgrade in the hope that it might fix the problem where compiz freezes up the window manager for minutes on end. Linux with nvidia is about as unreliable as using windows which is very frustrating. Anyone know if 14.10 works better with nvidia cards?
NVIDIA actually does a great job with their binary blob drivers and they are much more reliable than the AMD Catalyst drivers for Linux. It sounds like your problem lies with compiz/ubuntu. Maybe try a different window manager/distro?