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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by sampo »

asdfaoeu wrote: post #64
danford wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Alt+Tab is completely broken This is kind of an opinion. There is no rule book that says it needs to behave a certain way. I prefer this. >ruining the very purpose of virtual desktops I use virtual desktops to separate windows in overview mode so when they're presented for picking they aren't really small. And also for organization. >Gnome's "workspaces" are not as powerful as traditional virtual desktops. The bigge…

> This is kind of an opinion. There is no rule book that says it needs to behave a certain way. I prefer this. In case you wanted more proof of this I think both of these are wrong and it should be by window not application. Thankfully MATE does this and is coincidentally available now in Ubuntu 14.04.

> MATE does this

That's also the default on Xfce.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by stesch »

danford wrote: post #79
Zardoz84 wrote: post #46

I really recommend trying out the Ubuntu KDE flavour (KUbuntu). I really like it as being more usable and configurable than Unity and Gnome.

Eh.. I think it's only more usable if you're coming from and are used to a traditional desktop like Windows. If you were introducing someone to a computer for the first time, GNOME 3 is by far the most simple and easiest to use desktop on the market right now. Yes even more usable than windows 8 for someone who has never used an OS before. As for configurability KDE has quite a few more years under it's belt, so it's…

The first GUI I used was Intuition (AmigaOS). What would you recommend?

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by talklittle »

afhdshufdufdo wrote: post #38
ing33k wrote: post #8

Just upgraded from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 . already liking the locally integrated menus.

I would recommend against this for anyone on an older computer. I had been on Lubuntu 12.04, then went through phases where I had various versions Xubuntu and Mint XCFE and ended up back at Lubuntu 12.04 because it is still the fastest drop-in recent distro.

Ok, but what about Lubuntu 14.04 compared to Lubuntu 12.04?

Your comment is only comparing LXDE with other desktop managers, instead of comparing different versions of Lubuntu.

EDIT: It occurs to me you may have mistaken "LTS" for the desktop manager name (LXDE) when you replied. LTS means "Long Term Support".

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by danford »

tcfunk wrote: post #71
sandGorgon wrote: post #15

I really recommend trying out the Ubuntu Gnome flavor [1] - I really like it as being more usable than Unity. Plus https://extensions.gnome.org/ is incredible. P.S. - [2] this is my personal optimization script for a lean and developer friendly Gnome Ubuntu 14.04 install. YMMV. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME [2] https://gist.github.com/sandys/6030823#file-lean_install_ubu...

Giving it a try now, but I have to say the amount of space wasted by the header bar of each window really bothers me. Example: http://i.imgur.com/bKGyEo3.png

This is a great resource: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME

See: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME#Reduce_title_bar_...

But the tweak tool lets you change the font size which was enough for me. I also installed htitle to firefox to hide the title bar when full screen.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by Dewie »

samolang wrote: post #52

The first comment I saw said it was impressive. The second said I should use Gnome instead of Unity. The third said I should try something called localepurge for a leaner install. The fourth said KDE was better than Gnome and Unity. The fifth recommended Xubuntu over Gnome. This is the sort of fragmentation that makes popular adoption difficult, but is also what makes Linux awesome.

I have hardly had any problems with installing alternative window managers on Ubuntu 12.04. For me, I don't see the need for installing leaner Ubuntu variants as long as the laptop/desktop I'm using is 4 years or younger.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by danford »

stesch wrote: post #82
danford wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh.. I think it's only more usable if you're coming from and are used to a traditional desktop like Windows. If you were introducing someone to a computer for the first time, GNOME 3 is by far the most simple and easiest to use desktop on the market right now. Yes even more usable than windows 8 for someone who has never used an OS before. As for configurability KDE has quite a few more years under it's belt, so it's…

The first GUI I used was Intuition (AmigaOS). What would you recommend?

I think I was still pooping my britches when you were using that, so I haven't had much experience with it, but KDE is probably more similar to it than GNOME. I would recommend you use what ever you feel most comfortable with. Of course if you have any experience with mobile OS's like iOS or android, GNOME shouldn't be too hard for you to pick up.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by gd2 »

Any tips on how to make the update from beta 2 to final easy?

I want to keep all my apps, aliases, .bashrc edits, etc. Thankfully, I don't do this often enough that I remember the process at 7 am?s

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by Touche »

vanderZwan wrote: post #5
NathanOsullivan wrote: post #2

I really don't get the intention with the default visual style Ubuntu has settled on. I'm sure a lot of work has gone into it but it's just not attractive. I previously thought it was growing pains and they would eventually land on a great style that was still "theirs", but at this point it feels like a lost cause. Personally I've stopped recommending Ubuntu on the desktop because I already know what the initial reac…

You give zero arguments for what you consider wrong with the visual style of Ubuntu. I'm sure there are flaws that graphic designers and other people trained in the topic can point out, but until you do it's just... yeah, well, like... your opinion man. And the lack of a flat UI does not count as an argument - that's just a fashion trend. Also, my own anecdotal experience does not match yours. I often get surprised (…

They went from a brownish theme that people complained about for years to now a blackish purple that is equally gaudy. I don't understand why they can't go with a color scheme that isn't so dark and depressing.

Then there are the multi-colored icon boxes (why do the icons need boxes around them at all?) that all clash with each other and clash with the (ugly) purplish theme, and clashes against the gradient black top toolbar (which has virtually no padding by the way).

It doesn't take a great designer to notice these things, god knows I'm not one. But I've worked with designers at every company I've worked for, small or big, and all of them would have done a (much) better job than Unity. Which tells me either no designers were involved or they were outvoted at every decision.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Post by fiatmoney »

gd2 wrote: post #88

Any tips on how to make the update from beta 2 to final easy? I want to keep all my apps, aliases, .bashrc edits, etc. Thankfully, I don't do this often enough that I remember the process at 7 am?s

You should just be able to sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade. The release has newer packages than the betas & dailys, but they all point at the same repos.
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