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FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report, January-March 2014

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Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report, January-March 2014

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This report has only made me want to try FreeBSD even more at some point. Some highlights for me were: - FreeBSD on Chromebook - Chromium port - Improved Wine port

I love FreeBSD and was planning on switching some servers from Linux but found that it consumed about 25% more power than my Linux boxes (even after extensive power management tweaks) and in the end didn't have much advantage. It's not hard to install freeBSD in a VM, set up ssh, run it headless, and ssh in. I suggest you give it a go. It's a great learning experience.

I'd be interested to see some benchmarks comparing Linux and FreeBSD power usage. Personally I've been impressed w/ power management on FreeBSD 10 using recent hardware - once I enabled powerd and set the powerd_flags - but I haven't installed Linux on the same hardware.

Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report, January-March 2014

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This report has only made me want to try FreeBSD even more at some point. Some highlights for me were: - FreeBSD on Chromebook - Chromium port - Improved Wine port

Ha, you beat me to it! https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/arm/Chromebook I bought a refurb Acer C720 4gb and have found it perfect for everyday tasks / general use with Ubuntu installed.

I haven't been able to find the 4gb model, where did you get it?

Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report, January-March 2014

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Ha, you beat me to it! https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/arm/Chromebook I bought a refurb Acer C720 4gb and have found it perfect for everyday tasks / general use with Ubuntu installed.

I haven't been able to find the 4gb model, where did you get it?

Not the GP, but I was able to pick up a new 4gb model from the Acer online store a few weeks ago (the Canadian store - I don't think Acer is selling it new in the US anymore).

If you're unable to find one I believe the new Dell Chromebook 11 is fairly similar.

Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report, January-March 2014

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I haven't been able to find the 4gb model, where did you get it?

Not the GP, but I was able to pick up a new 4gb model from the Acer online store a few weeks ago (the Canadian store - I don't think Acer is selling it new in the US anymore). If you're unable to find one I believe the new Dell Chromebook 11 is fairly similar.

Marginally relevant - are ARM Chromebooks any good for development? I've been considering getting a Samsung Chromebook 2 when it comes out, but I'm concerned that important software won't be available for ARM.

Anyone running crouton on an ARM Chromebook care to comment?

Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report, January-March 2014

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>I love FreeBSD and was planning on switching some servers from Linux but found that it consumed about 25% more power than my Linux boxes Wow, I wouldn't have thought there would be such a dramatic difference in power consumption on anything but portable hardware. Did you try to measure the CPU and I/O usage on your servers and compare them between Linux and FreeBSD? I wonder if FreeBSD's greater power draw was due t…

I wasn't using zfs at the time and I didn't do much comparison with CPU and IO, I used a wattage meter. I followed the FreeBSD guide ( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ac... ) and tried just about everything. My Linux box was running at about 9watts (idle) and freeBSD started out at around 18, but I got it down to about 12watts after making a lot of optimizations. I think most of the differen…

Do you remember which FreeBSD version and which Linux kernel version was it?

Linux had tickless kernel + CPU scaling for a while. FreeBSD is lagging in this aspect.

Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report, January-March 2014

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I wasn't using zfs at the time and I didn't do much comparison with CPU and IO, I used a wattage meter. I followed the FreeBSD guide ( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ac... ) and tried just about everything. My Linux box was running at about 9watts (idle) and freeBSD started out at around 18, but I got it down to about 12watts after making a lot of optimizations. I think most of the differen…

Do you remember which FreeBSD version and which Linux kernel version was it? Linux had tickless kernel + CPU scaling for a while. FreeBSD is lagging in this aspect.

The FreeBSD kernel is tickless as of FreeBSD 10:

http://www.freebsdnews.net/2013/09/20/freebsd-10s-new-techno...

Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report, January-March 2014

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Do you remember which FreeBSD version and which Linux kernel version was it? Linux had tickless kernel + CPU scaling for a while. FreeBSD is lagging in this aspect.

The FreeBSD kernel is tickless as of FreeBSD 10: http://www.freebsdnews.net/2013/09/20/freebsd-10s-new-techno...

Yes, exactly, it only has it for couple of months, that's why I asked about version.

Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report, January-March 2014

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Do you remember which FreeBSD version and which Linux kernel version was it? Linux had tickless kernel + CPU scaling for a while. FreeBSD is lagging in this aspect.

The FreeBSD kernel is tickless as of FreeBSD 10: http://www.freebsdnews.net/2013/09/20/freebsd-10s-new-techno...

Yes, exactly, it only has it for couple of months, that's why I asked about version.

Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report, January-March 2014

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Do you remember which FreeBSD version and which Linux kernel version was it? Linux had tickless kernel + CPU scaling for a while. FreeBSD is lagging in this aspect.

The FreeBSD kernel is tickless as of FreeBSD 10: http://www.freebsdnews.net/2013/09/20/freebsd-10s-new-techno...

Yes, exactly, it only has it for couple of months, that's why I asked about version.
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