It’s Time to Encrypt the Entire Internet
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#3Yet when I go to this link it's plain HTTP.
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#4*Edited for clarity
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#5At the moment the SSL certificate industry is one big ripoff fest...
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#6Encrypting the internet is not enough if a few companies have unlimited resources and the freedom to figure out how to break the encryption (legally). *Edited for clarity
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#7Encrypting the internet is not enough if a few companies have unlimited resources and the freedom to figure out how to break the encryption (legally). *Edited for clarity
False. What you say reduces the usefulness of encrypting everything but certainly doesn't make it "useless".
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#9Yet when I go to this link it's plain HTTP.
But to stay on topic: encouraging this kind of major shift to SSL spreads a problem that is still there but is very little acknowledged or worked on -- revocations.
Certificate revocation check is using either CRL or OCSP. CRL is a list of all the revoked certificates - browser needs to download the whole file and then check if the cert is revoked. OCSP is an optimized protocol to perform a more efficient certificate validation.
CRL is slowly being phased out as it grows too fast and there are jokes around that thanks to heartbleed the size becomes comparable to a blockchain.
But now the real issue: almost NONE of the mobile browsers check for revocation! Add to this that by default Chrome is not checking for cert revocation either. So isn't this rendering the whole revocation mechanism almost useless against a real attack?
There is a reason why it's not done in mobile (and Chrome) -- it makes the requests slower, especially in mobile. There is a timeout fallback in browser so that whenever OCSP responder times out then browser assumes the cert is valid. Which is not helping when the real attack is executed.
To sum up, until there is a 99% browser-market covering revocation mechanism that is not slowing down the browser CA-based SSL certificates are too fragile to get us to the safe and encrypted future.
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#10The current situation is akin to having to travel to some centralized letter-reading facility in order to read letter mail. Your grandma sends you a letter in the mail and you have to go to a central facility downtown, then prove your identity, and then they hand over the (opened) letter.
We put a man on the moon more than 40 years ago. We must be able to sort this out.