Do you offer an api or any sort of non GUI access? I've come so close to building this out for myself(at much greater expense), looks fantastic
On our roadmap! We'll make an announcement once we release it.
Streem (YC S12) Offers Unlimited Cloud Storage and Streaming for $20/Month
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Re: Streem (YC S12) Offers Unlimited Cloud Storage and Streaming for $20/Month
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh, so I could build a competitor to twitch.tv and host all the media for the website on your servers. Keep the small static html, css, js, swf, etc. files on some other cloud provider. You'd charge me only $20/month for media storage+streaming and I'll probably only be charged perhaps $30/month from a cloud provider. $20/month for the server just being on and maybe another $10 for the bandwidth of the static files(…
i think this service is targeted at personal clouds. Hosting some service for thousands of users on it is probably against their terms and you'll be kicked out.
Oh so it it's not....unlimited.
Re: Streem (YC S12) Offers Unlimited Cloud Storage and Streaming for $20/Month
#63You should really avoid using this service. The terms are really scary. You should read them before using them for anything. They basically take over the rights of anything you put up there and may use them in any way they want. Upload your home movie? They can use it for ads, selling it to 3rd parties, use your audio for a new product or anything else they can imagine. The "best" part is, they provide you no way to…
Here's a breakdown of what each of these things mean: royalty-free : Streem doesn't have to pay the user to display the content they upload back to them from our authorized clients (web, desktop, mobile). perpetual : The right to display the content doesn't expire after some time, unless the account is closed and data is deleted as described in the second paragraph. irrevocable : Once the user uploads content, they c…
I don't care about interpretations. I care about what is actually written. The phrasing gives them complete control. Royalty-free does not just mean they only have to go through "authorized clients". It means, someone could upload tracks they are recording for an album...then the "Company" could decide to publish it without paying any royalties.
The restriction line also doesn't apply at all. You simply start an affiliate company that does music promotion, then it is within the business line. The terms are a serious joke and horrible for customers. No one should trust a company with their data when the company is taking complete control and ownership of the data, with no restrictions or ability to revoke permission (even when deleting it).
Other storage companies (that I will work with) do not prevent me from using my own encryption to protect the data. So unless they break my encryption, my data is useless to them. Streem doesn't allow encryption, so this isn't like other storage companies. It seems like Streem is using this just to gather lots of content and sell it for profit, advertising and targeting purposes. Really scary...
Re: Streem (YC S12) Offers Unlimited Cloud Storage and Streaming for $20/Month
#64You should really avoid using this service. The terms are really scary. You should read them before using them for anything. They basically take over the rights of anything you put up there and may use them in any way they want. Upload your home movie? They can use it for ads, selling it to 3rd parties, use your audio for a new product or anything else they can imagine. The "best" part is, they provide you no way to…
Here's a breakdown of what each of these things mean: royalty-free : Streem doesn't have to pay the user to display the content they upload back to them from our authorized clients (web, desktop, mobile). perpetual : The right to display the content doesn't expire after some time, unless the account is closed and data is deleted as described in the second paragraph. irrevocable : Once the user uploads content, they c…
It sounds like you acknowledge that your TOS is scary and you know how other companies have fixed this problem but you refuse to do it. Why?
Re: Streem (YC S12) Offers Unlimited Cloud Storage and Streaming for $20/Month
#65Does anyone actually have experience with this? It sounds like one of those "there has to be a catch" type services. Any limits on filetypes? Is there a max size per file? How is the network speed? Do they fire any customers who use too much storage space and/or bandwidth? What is stopping my company from encrypting our database backups and uploading them to Streem nightly for permanent storage at a fraction of the p…
It sounds like the catch is that you grant them "a royalty-free, transferable, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, worldwide license to use, reproduce, modify, publish, list information regarding, edit, translate, distribute, syndicate, publicly perform, publicly display, and make derivative works of all such User Content"[0]. Perhaps this is the start of a massive stock photo/video company? [0] https://www.streem…
Yeah, really scary. But just trust them, they are a corporation. Corporations always have the customer's best interest at heart. They aren't about making as much profit as possible...oh wait, yes they are.
Re: Streem (YC S12) Offers Unlimited Cloud Storage and Streaming for $20/Month
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a breakdown of what each of these things mean: royalty-free : Streem doesn't have to pay the user to display the content they upload back to them from our authorized clients (web, desktop, mobile). perpetual : The right to display the content doesn't expire after some time, unless the account is closed and data is deleted as described in the second paragraph. irrevocable : Once the user uploads content, they c…
I don't care about interpretations. I care about what is actually written. The phrasing gives them complete control. Royalty-free does not just mean they only have to go through "authorized clients". It means, someone could upload tracks they are recording for an album...then the "Company" could decide to publish it without paying any royalties. The restriction line also doesn't apply at all. You simply start an affi…
From the second paragraph you posted, if they created a compnay that does music promotion, it seems like you could delete your files off Streem and they would no longer have the rights to do anything besides store it. In fact, storage seems to be the only right you can't revoke. Isn't this the same for a ton of other companies that allow you to upload content (i.e. doesn't Facebook get to keep your data even when you delete your account?)
ritikm gave a pretty detailed response to why they request those rights. To dismiss that explanation with "Streem is using this just to gather lots of content and sell it for profit" seems like unwarranted FUD.
Re: Streem (YC S12) Offers Unlimited Cloud Storage and Streaming for $20/Month
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a breakdown of what each of these things mean: royalty-free : Streem doesn't have to pay the user to display the content they upload back to them from our authorized clients (web, desktop, mobile). perpetual : The right to display the content doesn't expire after some time, unless the account is closed and data is deleted as described in the second paragraph. irrevocable : Once the user uploads content, they c…
It sounds like you acknowledge that your TOS is scary and you know how other companies have fixed this problem but you refuse to do it. Why?
It sounds to me like he acknowledged that other companies are able to phrase their TOS in a more friendly way while still essentially getting you to agree to the same terms. Whether that's "fixing" the problem depends on what you view as the problem, I suppose.
Re: Streem (YC S12) Offers Unlimited Cloud Storage and Streaming for $20/Month
#68The instant I see the word "Unlimited" - I don't even bother to investigate further, as the project is either (A) Lying, (B) Unsustainable, (C) Rate limiting or otherwise bottlenecking you so you can't really use the service effectively. I've seen dozens (maybe more) references to the "Unlimited" service, and with only a few exceptions, they always fall into one of those categories. I'm wondering when other people co…
In this case, "unlimited" probably means "~1TB on average". Lots of companies already offer several hundred GB of storage and sharing at the $20/mo price point, and there are backup services like Backblaze that offer "unlimited" backup space for $5/mo without going out of business. So the monthly fee is enough to cover the storage and bandwidth that most users are realistically ever going to use. And when you have a…
The reason why Backblaze's unlimited backups aren't as much of a problem for me, is I have no desire for more than about 12 Terabytes of backups. So, as long as Backblaze's definition of "Unlimited" is 12 terabytes or less (and, based on their performance with me the last couple years, they are) - we are good to go.
But, I'm pretty certain if I tried to backup a 200 TByte iSCSI array (which appears as a "local drive", and, is theoretically something that could be backed up by BackBlaze) - I'd find myself either throttled, or receiving a polite email from Backblaze suggesting I was using their service in a manner that was not intended.
That's the thing with unlimited services - if you ask enough times, they will always tell you what the actual number is - I just wish they would come out up front and share it.
Re: Streem (YC S12) Offers Unlimited Cloud Storage and Streaming for $20/Month
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
In this case, "unlimited" probably means "~1TB on average". Lots of companies already offer several hundred GB of storage and sharing at the $20/mo price point, and there are backup services like Backblaze that offer "unlimited" backup space for $5/mo without going out of business. So the monthly fee is enough to cover the storage and bandwidth that most users are realistically ever going to use. And when you have a…
The reason why Backblaze's unlimited backups aren't as much of a problem for me, is I have no desire for more than about 12 Terabytes of backups. So, as long as Backblaze's definition of "Unlimited" is 12 terabytes or less (and, based on their performance with me the last couple years, they are) - we are good to go. But, I'm pretty certain if I tried to backup a 200 TByte iSCSI array (which appears as a "local drive"…
Since there is no such thing as unlimited anything in this universe, it would be unreasonable to assume that "unlimited" is anything but an exaggeration.
Then we enter the same territory as any other case where technically incorrect claims are used in the media. Like GB vs. GiB, or "hacker" vs. "cracker", or "hashing" vs. "encryption", you name it. When we nerds complain about people who fail to make such distinctions, it makes no difference whatsoever and they'll just look at us funny. Because vagueness and exaggeration are integral features of natural language and it is we who are being anal retentive about it.
In common parlance, "unlimited" is just a shorthand for "we're going to give you a large amount that we believe will be more than enough for the vast majority of our users, and we're not going to set up a specific limit, but we reserve the right to put up a limit if you do something that anyone with common sense should realize is an abuse of our policies". This works just fine in a world where people actually use common sense. You instinctively know that backing up your 200TB iSCSI array would be an abuse of Backblaze's policy, just as you know that grabbing a hundred napkins at the local McDonald's every morning and using it for all your personal hygiene needs throughout the day would be an abuse of McD's napkins-are-free policy. As long as everyone only uses as many napkins they need to wipe the ketchup off their fingers, McD's can continue to offer free "unlimited" napkins.
Typically, the actual quality of service and quantity of available resources does not depend on whether or not the service advertises "unlimited" something. Rather, it depends on the quality and integrity of the people who provide the service. A typical EIG-owned web host with an "unlimited" plan will kick you out if you use 100GB of bandwidth. YouTube, on the other hand, will happily let your homemade full HD music video consume 10PB of bandwidth.
Re: Streem (YC S12) Offers Unlimited Cloud Storage and Streaming for $20/Month
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
i think this service is targeted at personal clouds. Hosting some service for thousands of users on it is probably against their terms and you'll be kicked out.
Oh so it it's not....unlimited.
Oh for crying out loud. The number of bytes is unlimited. But the service itself is for storing your media files. The twitch competitor is clearly violating the 'your'.