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Ask HN: How do you get and stay in the "zone"?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you get and stay in the "zone"?

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Routines. Flaubert once said, "Be regular and orderly in your life, so that you may be violent and original in your work." Go to bed at roughly the same time. Get up at roughly the same time. Eat breakfast (prevents sugar crashes later in the day). Do some light exercise when you get out of bed (7 min workout, holla) and then meditate. Do actually intense exercise once or twice a week. Snack a few hours after your lu…

What do you do while your tests run? :)

Ideally, you find other short tasks that you needed to get done but in practice I keep a New Yorker or a book by my desk.

Less likely to only come to my senses half an hour and 8 tabs later ;).

Re: Ask HN: How do you get and stay in the "zone"?

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I like to keep a running TODO list in a vim buffer or in OSX's notes app, or evernote. I check off every little thing that I do. As things come to mind I add them to the list. This keeps me from getting overwhelmed. Once I finish something the next step is clear. Go to the TODO list and choose the next item.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get and stay in the "zone"?

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I'd highly recommend that you research "Flow": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology). There's a great book by Csíkszentmihályi on the topic also called "Flow". Basically Csíkszentmihályi figured out what the "zone" actually is, what stimulates it and how it leads to productivity and happiness.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get and stay in the "zone"?

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Being in the zone (lots of energy, ideas, inspiration, optimism, focus) is really a vague description for when your body is functioning optimally.

People who are depressed are given SSRIs (selective seratonin reuptake inhibitors) because your mood is largely governed by the levels of seratonin available in your brain. Similarly, your focus / "motivation" / "drive" is largely determined by dopamine. Acetylcholine, another neurotransmitter, is described by Wikipedia as having the key function of "responsiveness to sensory stimuli, a form of attention". The neurotransmitter GABA is commonly referred to as the "relaxatory neurotransmitter" - the one released when you do yoga or meditate.

The levels of these neurotransmitters are affected by what you're eating (and your body's ability to process what you're eating in terms of your baseline metabolic rate, digestive ecology etc.), how much exercise you're getting, what you're doing and even the thoughts you're having themselves.

So, in my opinion at least, you could equate "being in the zone" with having all your neurotransmitter levels and other body mechanisms functioning at their "optimal" levels. What complicates this is that "optimal" is person-specific. So a person who is "out of the zone" and very lethargic could make themselves more "in the zone" by taking steps to raise their dopamine levels whereas someone who is "out of the zone" because they're too over-active could become more "in the zone" by raising their GABA levels and bringing more "calm" to their life.

Raising your levels of a particular neurotransmitter can be done directly or indirectly. For example, you can raise your levels of the relaxatory neurotransmitter GABA by drinking green tea which is high in theanine which is the amino acid which your brain uses to make more GABA. Alternatively, and more interestingly to me, is that your actions affect your neurotransmitter levels too. For example, see the link below to a study concluding that a "12-week yoga intervention was associated with greater improvements in mood and anxiety than a metabolically matched walking exercise. This is the first study to demonstrate that increased thalamic GABA levels are associated with improved mood and decreased anxiety." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20722471

I can't really substantiate this and it might very well sound like hippie bullshit but I honestly feel that there are ways to live your life that are better than others. For example, I think it would be difficult to argue that you feel better if you spend the day outside than if you stay inside sitting at a desk in an air-conditioned office. Of course, you can point to increased vitamin D being correlated to improved mood etc. but I think we all have an instinct that certain activities are "good" for you (in the sense that they help you become more "in the zone").

I've found the following to help move me more in alignment of "being in the zone" and move my neurotransmitter levels in the directions of "where they should be" for me to be in the zone: * 15 minutes of yoga every morning

* Omega 3, vitamin D and a solid multivitamin every day

* 40 minutes of intense cardio 3x per week (7-10km run)

* compound functional weights training (squats, deadlifts, pullups, etc.) for 40min 3x per week

* cut out sodas and drink at least 2.5 litres of water daily

* try not eat heavy meals at night (your digestion goes to sleep when the sun goes down) - eat your main meal in the middle of the day when your digestion is strongest

* cut out allergens (milk, nuts, wheat) and add them back slowly because you could very well be perpetually functioning beneath your optimal simply because your body is constantly in an allergic response state

* green smoothies every second day (kale, broccoli, spinach, bananas, ginger, coconut oil)

* 20 minutes mindfulness meditation daily

* listen to good music

* smile

:)

Re: Ask HN: How do you get and stay in the "zone"?

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It's very difficult to get "in the zone," if you're not working on something that is inherently meaningful to you. You could move bricks all day, work 8 hours straight, and become the best brick mover around, but I doubt you'd consider yourself locked in during that time. Your mind is probably wandering to other topics of interest; distracting you from the actual task.

If you want to get in the zone: find a meaningful task, or allow the given task to take on meaning for you.

Re: Ask HN: How do you get and stay in the "zone"?

#39
In my experience, the secret is highly correlated to the preparation that I do before the work even begins.

What this means is practicing a daily combination of correct eating, rigorous exercise and quality sleep. With these elements in harmony and alignment, I am able to bring it.

I recommend a morning yoga routine [1]. This will clear the mind, revitalize the body and set the ground-work and tempo for a fantastic day.

I recommend girya [2].

I recommend a Nordic Track ski machine [3]. The Nordic Track ski machine is one of the most righteous cardio machines ever designed.

You do not need a gym. You can work out at home. Please see my previous comments here [4].

I wish you nothing but the best in your journey.

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=ashtanga+vinyasa+yoga&tbm=is...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettlebell

[3] https://www.google.com/search?&q=nordic+track+ski+machine&tb...

[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5617870

Re: Ask HN: How do you get and stay in the "zone"?

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post #35

I'd highly recommend that you research "Flow": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology) . There's a great book by Csíkszentmihályi on the topic also called "Flow". Basically Csíkszentmihályi figured out what the "zone" actually is, what stimulates it and how it leads to productivity and happiness.

I've heard this guy on NPR and other radio programs promoting his book. While I find the subject fascinating I get distracted by his marketing buzzspeak and branding. Specifically that he dubs his concept "Flow" when it's been more commonly known as "in the zone" for decades. I could come to no reasoning other than his need for a new brandable term. Not a big deal I guess, but overall undermined the work to me.

Having read the book is there something I'm missing in that guess?

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