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Verified: Kundra Did Receive an M.S. in Information Systems Management

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Re: Verified: Kundra Did Receive an M.S. in Information Systems Management

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Post by DanielBMarkham »

calambrac wrote: post #18
DanielBMarkham wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure thing. That's the way it looks here too. So now he's got to live with this Charlie Foxtrot for the rest of his life. Digging down into the sewer with him and throwing it around some doesn't help anybody.

All the other "Charlie Foxtrots" (btw, wtf?) that he's perpetrated up until now, he doesn't have to live with those? How many inflammatory fuckups does a person get to commit before its fair game to point out that they're a jackass?

I believe that's for you to answer, since you're the one calling him one.

What's your number? Three? Four?

Guy might end up losing his job and being a mockery the rest of his life and all you've got to offer is to pile on? What is this, kindergarten?

Re: Verified: Kundra Did Receive an M.S. in Information Systems Management

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Post by eli »

alexgartrell wrote: post #10

Sorry to ask the obvious question, but who cares? IS Programs (even the top ones) aren't the most rigorous things in the world. Anyone who is in a CIO type position should probably have real world experience, professional degrees be damned. Why aren't we talking about that instead?

Agreed. The fact is he did a pretty good job with the DC.gov websites according to just about everyone involved. They're the most data rich and accessible complex government site I've ever seen. e.g. http://data.octo.dc.gov/

Visual design aside, DC may well have the best website of any city or state in the country.

Re: Verified: Kundra Did Receive an M.S. in Information Systems Management

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Post by eli »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #6
pavs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not the first time he "screwed up".

Then politely point out the times he did beforehand. Did he not do enough research and make a politically-charged article in the past? Then that's germane to the conversation. We'd like to hear about it. But calling somebody a jackass is not.

One amusing incident was when he took Microsoft to task for creating a "System Idle Process" that uses up all his available CPU time. That's about the time I stopped reading his column.

There are many other examples: http://www.google.com/search?q=john+dvorak+idiot or http://www.google.com/search?q=john+dvorak+moron

Re: Verified: Kundra Did Receive an M.S. in Information Systems Management

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Post by look_lookatme »

(repost from other thread)

Dvorak called the University of Maryland, College Park and they said they had no record of him receiving a degree at there, which is what everyone things of when they read University of Maryland. NextGov confirmed he has an MS at UMUC, which might have a shared history with UMD, but only UMD is allowed to be known as the University of Maryland.

This is so obviously a non-story, or at least not worth more than a short, transparency inspired blog post. Of all Dvoraks bonehead stories, this one takes the cake.

Still, I'd like to see Kundra's bio updated to reflect the actual university he received that degree from. I would never say I received an MS from the University of Texas, when in fact I received one from some other UT system school, and certainly wouldn't phrase it that way on my .gov bio page.

Re: Verified: Kundra Did Receive an M.S. in Information Systems Management

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Post by eli »

stanleydrew wrote: post #17

University of Maryland University College is not exactly the same as the University of Maryland. It's their adult continuing education program basically.

Huh? University College is exactly as much a part of the University of Maryland as College Park.

The complaint is that his bio doesn't specify which campus he attended? This really matters?

Re: Verified: Kundra Did Receive an M.S. in Information Systems Management

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Post by davidw »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #21
calambrac wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the other "Charlie Foxtrots" (btw, wtf?) that he's perpetrated up until now, he doesn't have to live with those? How many inflammatory fuckups does a person get to commit before its fair game to point out that they're a jackass?

I believe that's for you to answer, since you're the one calling him one. What's your number? Three? Four? Guy might end up losing his job and being a mockery the rest of his life and all you've got to offer is to pile on? What is this, kindergarten?

Wasn't he one of the 'journalists' who bought into the SCO vs Linux thing?

One way to not risk your job and reputation is to be very careful prior to publishing lies about people in widely circulated publications.

Re: Verified: Kundra Did Receive an M.S. in Information Systems Management

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Post by look_lookatme »

eli wrote: post #27
stanleydrew wrote: post #17

University of Maryland University College is not exactly the same as the University of Maryland. It's their adult continuing education program basically.

Huh? University College is exactly as much a part of the University of Maryland as College Park. The complaint is that his bio doesn't specify which campus he attended? This really matters?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Of_Maryland

"However, in 1997 the Maryland General Assembly passed legislation allowing the University of Maryland, College Park to be known simply as the University of Maryland, recognizing the campus' role as the flagship institution of the University System of Maryland."

No one of thinks "oh one of those Maryland universities with different faculties and different quality of education" when they hear University of Maryland. They think of College Park.

It may be splitting hairs, but we shouldn't even be having this conversation, as it should be clear on the bio page.

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