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Re: Mozilla Moving Forward

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"It's time to start sticking up for ourselves" Can you clarify what group does "ourselves" reference?

Probably people with other opinions than the masses.

Proposition 8 was an opinion of the masses: it received 7,001,084 (52.24%) of the votes.

Re: Mozilla Moving Forward

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I'm still mad about the Brendan Eich thing. Like, mad . I'm totally fine with anybody pursuing whatever kind of political agenda they want, but at the moment you start to derail real progress, the moment you attack one of the best organizations who has literally been busting its ass for the last decade to change the world for no profit... Well, you declared war. I think this whole debacle should be a rallying cry tha…

I read this twice, and I still have no idea what you are trying to say, which side of any issue you are on, or what makes you any different from over-reacting haters on either side.

Re: Mozilla Moving Forward

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post #5

I'm still mad about the Brendan Eich thing. Like, mad . I'm totally fine with anybody pursuing whatever kind of political agenda they want, but at the moment you start to derail real progress, the moment you attack one of the best organizations who has literally been busting its ass for the last decade to change the world for no profit... Well, you declared war. I think this whole debacle should be a rallying cry tha…

"It's time to start sticking up for ourselves" Can you clarify what group does "ourselves" reference?

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Re: Mozilla Moving Forward

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There is a stark contrast with how Drew Houston of Dropbox defended Condi Rice vs Mozilla's lack of effort in defending someone that instrumental part of what Mozilla is today. https://blog.dropbox.com/2014/04/our-commitment-to-your-righ... His pointed response is short and stern. "We’re honored to have Dr. Rice join our board" Mozilla's was apologetic. "We didn’t act like you’d expect Mozilla to act. We didn’t move…

You can't really compare Dropbox and Mozilla. They don't have the same structure, they don't have the same goals, they don't attract the same kind of leadership or employees, they don't have the same people pulling the strings, etc etc.

Re: Mozilla Moving Forward

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post #21
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably people with other opinions than the masses.

Proposition 8 was an opinion of the masses: it received 7,001,084 (52.24%) of the votes.

It amazes me that you've been downvoted for posting a fact.

Proposition 8 was passed by a majority: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_%28200...

However one feels about the result, only a fascist would want to shove that bit of history down the memory hole.

Re: Mozilla Moving Forward

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I'm still mad about the Brendan Eich thing. Like, mad . I'm totally fine with anybody pursuing whatever kind of political agenda they want, but at the moment you start to derail real progress, the moment you attack one of the best organizations who has literally been busting its ass for the last decade to change the world for no profit... Well, you declared war. I think this whole debacle should be a rallying cry tha…

"produced nothing but useless bickering"

Brendan Eich produced _nothing_ but useless bickering?

Re: Mozilla Moving Forward

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I'm still mad about the Brendan Eich thing. Like, mad . I'm totally fine with anybody pursuing whatever kind of political agenda they want, but at the moment you start to derail real progress, the moment you attack one of the best organizations who has literally been busting its ass for the last decade to change the world for no profit... Well, you declared war. I think this whole debacle should be a rallying cry tha…

"the moment you attack one of the best organizations" Nobody attacked Mozilla. You're totally off base.

OKCupid did - they told people to ditch Firefox - http://news.yahoo.com/okcupid-urges-boycott-mozilla-cites-ce...

Re: Mozilla Moving Forward

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"the moment you attack one of the best organizations" Nobody attacked Mozilla. You're totally off base.

Some people fell just one step shy of demanding that others boycott Firefox. I'd call that an attack on Mozilla.

Some people would call attacking the decision of the Mozilla leadership supporting Mozilla.

I would not have given a f* about Eich if I didn't care about Mozilla.

Re: Mozilla Moving Forward

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Proposition 8 was an opinion of the masses: it received 7,001,084 (52.24%) of the votes.

It amazes me that you've been downvoted for posting a fact . Proposition 8 was passed by a majority: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_%28200... However one feels about the result, only a fascist would want to shove that bit of history down the memory hole.

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Re: Mozilla Moving Forward

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post #21
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably people with other opinions than the masses.

Proposition 8 was an opinion of the masses: it received 7,001,084 (52.24%) of the votes.

An opinion of the masses willing to vote is not necessarily an opinion of the masses. Regardless, even if it was a "majority" of people capable of voting, there's a reason the phrase "tyranny of the majority" exists.

There are a number of unnamed social ills and other problems that could still exist today in some countries or that would have likely lasted longer if we had waited for "popular opinion" to change.

I don't agree with forcing Eich out, but Mozilla should have known better than to pick a candidate that was going to be controversial to begin with. A person in leadership should be and often is held to a higher set of expectations.

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