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Re: Bret Victor's favourite books

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I really like "Reading Tip #1" in the "Links 2013" page, reproduced below: It's tempting to judge what you read: I agree with these statements, and I disagree with those. However, a great thinker who has spent decades on an unusual line of thought cannot induce their context into your head in a few pages. It’s almost certainly the case that you don’t fully understand their statements. Instead, you can say: I have now…

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Re: Bret Victor's favourite books

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Undoubtedly these excellent books call for a unique presentation. I, however, would like to see simple text-only list companion to go along with it. Turns out, this is not just a matter of grep'ing through the source: the only actual "text" are the link URLs.

I wrote a script[0] to create the list for amazon links at least:

    # Script redacted - I think HN isn't happy
    # with my scraping.  Fair enough.
The list contains 44 entries -- to much to post here, I'm afraid.

[0] Using the `mojo` cli tool for ad-hoc HTML parsing from http://mojolicio.us/

Re: Bret Victor's favourite books

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post #13

Undoubtedly these excellent books call for a unique presentation. I, however, would like to see simple text-only list companion to go along with it. Turns out, this is not just a matter of grep'ing through the source: the only actual "text" are the link URLs. I wrote a script[0] to create the list for amazon links at least: # Script redacted - I think HN isn't happy # with my scraping. Fair enough. The list contains…

Here's the beginning of the list[0] ('Design' and 'Engineering') in plain text (Markdown), using the "I can just type it out faster than I can try to parse it" approach. I'll do more later, maybe.

The 'unique presentation' also seems to mean no alt-text (bad) and no title-text (disappointing)...

[0]: http://pastebin.com/9NKtqJSw

Edit: Added a little more[1]. Maybe someone else will add some while I go write an exam :)

[1]: http://pastebin.com/J0vi5uvJ

Re: Bret Victor's favourite books

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post #4

Why is he using links to Amazon? Any reason why Amazon is preferred over other book stores? Is he getting an money from Amazon? How about supporting smaller local book stores, instead of making billionaires richer?

If you're going to link to something (which is a reasonable thing to do), you have to pick one and exclude the rest. So regardless of who he links to, you could make the same argument you're making (Why this over that? Is he being paid to promote?).

As for the idea of supporting large corporations vs. local stores, it's a complicated economic argument. I don't really know enough to say which is better for the society, but I'll just note that Amazon seems to be a very customer-centric company, and their size and talent lets them innovate in ways that small stores can't, thus benefiting the customer.

Re: Bret Victor's favourite books

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post #13

Undoubtedly these excellent books call for a unique presentation. I, however, would like to see simple text-only list companion to go along with it. Turns out, this is not just a matter of grep'ing through the source: the only actual "text" are the link URLs. I wrote a script[0] to create the list for amazon links at least: # Script redacted - I think HN isn't happy # with my scraping. Fair enough. The list contains…

Here's the beginning of the list[0] ('Design' and 'Engineering') in plain text (Markdown), using the "I can just type it out faster than I can try to parse it" approach. I'll do more later, maybe. The 'unique presentation' also seems to mean no alt-text (bad) and no title-text (disappointing)... [0]: http://pastebin.com/9NKtqJSw Edit: Added a little more[1]. Maybe someone else will add some while I go write an exam :…

While by no means as well-formatted, the following list contains the output of my now-redacted script: http://pastebin.com/NT2TKRTM

Re: Bret Victor's favourite books

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Any reason why Amazon is preferred over other book stores? Personally, for the reviews, the price and the very fast workflow from "What's this book about, is it good?" to "It's on its way". >> Is he getting an money from Amazon? Hopefully.. why not? >> How about supporting smaller local book stores, instead of making billionaires richer? In my book stores, there are unfortunately very few books about business and…

There are community sites for reviews. I have several books stores in my town where I can order these books. Even online. No need to support ONE particular book store.

Do these several book stores in your town send books overseas? Are their prices (including packaging and shipping cost) reasonable? Do they provide a site where i can find reviews about books i am interested in while ordering?

Re: Bret Victor's favourite books

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post #4

Why is he using links to Amazon? Any reason why Amazon is preferred over other book stores? Is he getting an money from Amazon? How about supporting smaller local book stores, instead of making billionaires richer?

If you're going to link to something (which is a reasonable thing to do), you have to pick one and exclude the rest. So regardless of who he links to, you could make the same argument you're making (Why this over that? Is he being paid to promote?). As for the idea of supporting large corporations vs. local stores, it's a complicated economic argument. I don't really know enough to say which is better for the society…

I use www.librarything.com to manage books, find books, read/write reviews, search libraries, link to book stores, ...

Isn't Amazon is a tax avoider, union hostile and privacy hostile company?

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