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Re: Ask HN: Math books like SICP?

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The Chicago undergraduate mathematics bibliography is a fantastic list: http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~abhishek/chicmath.htm .

What a fantastically long list! But it appears to be a bit dated. For example, the Algebraic Topology section doesn't have either of Hatcher or Munkres, which are the standard graduate texts nowadays.

Update: yeah this list was last updated in 2000.

Re: Ask HN: Math books like SICP?

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You might be interested in this math.SE question I asked:

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/62190/mathematical-...

(comparing to Feynman's Lectures on Physics rather than SICP.)

However, I agree with zodiac: Math is a much broader field and I think very few living people have the kind knowledge you're talking about: consistent and broad knowledge in all areas.

I have the same background as you and I started doing exactly this about 8 years ago. I'm just finishing my PhD in math. I'll give you some advice. First, studying math for its own sake by yourself is extremely hard. That's one reason I ended up back in academia. If you can't go back to school, still find some kind of community. Second, rather than studying generally, try to identify a goal to work towards. What are you trying to understand or figure out? Third, try to model your plan on a rigorous undergrad program, e.g., MIT. Then, in each main undergrad area (algebra, analysis, topology, geometry, etc.) try to find the "SICP" and study that. For general book recommendations, I like Fowler's A Mathematics Autodidact's Aid:

http://www.ams.org/notices/200510/comm-fowler.pdf

Re: Ask HN: Math books like SICP?

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I share exactly the same interest. Can anybody suggest some outline for what topics (more or less) should somebody cover to be on "undergrad-math" level? Unfortunately I have to hold my own tongue this time, because books I found useful are mainly in russian and they surely aren't like SICP. And I still lack the whole understanding of the area anyway.

All major universities have their course catalog and requirements online, e.g. MIT, and with OCW, you can see the textbooks and syllabus for almost every class.

Re: Ask HN: Math books like SICP?

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Recently, I've been reading this mega book that covers a lot of advanced topics in math by Kolmogorov et al. It is nice because it covers a lot of topics w/o in a fairly short text --- it is a brick but it covers 2000 years of knowledge! http://www.amazon.com/Mathematics-Content-Methods-Meaning-Do...

For first-year stuff, I would recommend No bullshit guide to math and physics[1] and the No bullshit guide to linear algebra[2] of which I am the author.

[1] http://minireference.com/ [2] http://gum.co/noBSLA

Re: Ask HN: Math books like SICP?

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post #11

I share exactly the same interest. Can anybody suggest some outline for what topics (more or less) should somebody cover to be on "undergrad-math" level? Unfortunately I have to hold my own tongue this time, because books I found useful are mainly in russian and they surely aren't like SICP. And I still lack the whole understanding of the area anyway.

My idea was to cover 6 topics, which would be equivalent to a broad freshman and 1/2 sophomore math education: * Set theory * Linear algebra * Geometry * Real analysis * Combinatorics * Probability theory

Eh, I was thinking about something else, actually. What you listed are taught in every CS program, aren't they? It isn't what I imagined when I heard "rigorous" at all.

Topology, number theory, abstract algebra (I mean, real one, not CS-course basics), statistics, tensor analysis? Isn't that "undergrad math"?

For things like Set theory/combinatorics/logic basics I'd recommend Rosen's "Discrete Math and Applications"[1]. CS oriented, simple, interesting, broad. Covers all the basic stuff.

Linear algebra — two books, "Linear algebra done Right" and "Linear algebra done Wrong". Second one more math-oriented, the first one — pretty simple, pretty clear, fun to read.

Real analysis ("calculus" you mean?) — I personally learned from different sources and probably the most concise book I read is Fichtengolz's "differential and integral calculus", but I don't know if it's available in english. I guess, almost any book on topic is fine.

Geometry & Probability theory — not sure what to recommend, because books on topic vary in depth dramatically, I would appreciate myself if somebody would outline the borders for what to cover first. Anyway, most of what I read and found useful is in russian, unfortunately. But still, what do you mean by geometry and prob. theory? Differential geometry, Riemannian geometry, erlangen program covered or only basic euclidean/analytic geometry stuff? Same goes for probability. If you care only for very basics — Khan's academy (or any random youtube videos) is fine. Any intro book on statistics covers it as well.

[1] - http://www.amazon.com/Discrete-Mathematics-Applications-Kenn...

Re: Ask HN: Math books like SICP?

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You might be interested in this math.SE question I asked: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/62190/mathematical-... (comparing to Feynman's Lectures on Physics rather than SICP.) However, I agree with zodiac: Math is a much broader field and I think very few living people have the kind knowledge you're talking about: consistent and broad knowledge in all areas. I have the same background as you and I started do…

> http://www.ams.org/notices/200510/comm-fowler.pdf

That's great one! Thank you for pointing this out very much.

Re: Ask HN: Math books like SICP?

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post #11

I share exactly the same interest. Can anybody suggest some outline for what topics (more or less) should somebody cover to be on "undergrad-math" level? Unfortunately I have to hold my own tongue this time, because books I found useful are mainly in russian and they surely aren't like SICP. And I still lack the whole understanding of the area anyway.

All the Mathematics You Missed: But Need to Know for Graduate School - http://www.amazon.com/All-Mathematics-You-Missed-Graduate/dp...

Re: Ask HN: Math books like SICP?

#29

It's not nearly as easy to work through as SICP is but Principles of Mathematical Analysis by Walter Rudin (sometimes referred to as little Rudin) is a great place to start if you're interested in analysis. It's a hard book, but it's pretty much the standard for undergrad analysis.

Baby Rudin still gives me nightmares.

Re: Ask HN: Math books like SICP?

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Not Math, but Physics/Mechanics, by Sussman again. Title ? SICM hehe https://mitpress.mit.edu/sites/default/files/titles/content/...

SICM is not like SICP at all. SICM assumes you're pretty well versed in classical mechanics and already have an understanding of both Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics.

Don't be fooled by the title and authors of the book!

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