Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO • Hacker News Board

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by nsxwolf » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 6:50 PM UTC

debt wrote: post #326

3pt14159 wrote: post #310

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Oh please. The CIA operative Valery Plame was crucified because her husband (a diplomat) that investigated the yellow cake claim in Africa wrote about how it was a sham drummed up for the war. "He didn't technically lie" - Sure he did. They knew what the truth was. They knew they needed an event to galvanize American support for action in the middle east. They knew what they were doing with how they worded the "War o…

They didn't need an event. It's pretty well known that they had planned to invade Iraq for quite a while prior to 9/11. The reasons we invaded Iraq had little to do with 9/11.

In a not far off alternate universe, Clinton would have invaded Iraq in his administration. His finger was always on the trigger.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by nsxwolf » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 6:52 PM UTC

afterburner wrote: post #271

at-fates-hands wrote: post #200

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>>> It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. Another great example of how partisanship and shitty double standards have ruined our country. The fact is, the vote to invade Iraq was a bi-partisan vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_t... "Introduced in Congress on October 2, 2002, in conjunction with the Administration's proposals,[2][7] H.J.Res. 114 passed the House of Representati…

The campaign to start the war didn't start with the vote, the vote came at the end of a long campaign of misinformation, orchestrated by the party in power.

Doesn't say much for the opposition party... why were the Democrats so easily duped?

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by gress » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 6:53 PM UTC

notd97843 wrote: post #126

antocv wrote: post #46

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Hey now, it would have been for nothing, all years of war and 600 000 deaths, if these people who were in charge and lead the effort, would suddenly find themselves in low-key positions in society. The top cream must stay at the top. Besides, her technical skills and understanding of IT for sure are awesome, making her the finest choice for Dropbox business.

And yet, President Obama selected Joe Biden as his vice president, who also voted for the same war. Hillary Clinton did too, and she's the leading Democratic contender for 2016. Why no outrage? Because they have a D next to their names?

It's not a question of 'no outrage', it's a question of no power. In the case of Dropbox, we can actually do something they care about: stop using their service.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by dang » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 6:53 PM UTC

Because this article contains very little information, the Rice/Dropbox story was posted to HN yesterday, and the current thread has gone both far off topic (relitigating the Bush years) and uncivil, we're going to demote this post.

I'm going to lighten the penalty on the other major Rice/Dropbox post, though, because although political causes are usually off-topic for HN, that story is at least new and the thread hasn't degenerated as badly.

Please note that when we say something is off topic for Hacker News, we do not mean that the topic is unimportant.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by gress » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 6:54 PM UTC

warrenm wrote: post #221

cryoshon wrote: post #29

Well, that's the end of my usage of Dropbox, effective immediately. I'll make sure to mention Condi's association with them in every conversation involving Dropbox, in hope of spreading knowledge about their profane selection of board members. It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. These people should be in prison for malevolently misleading the public in order to start a for-profit war which killed hundred…

Do you name-drop that Al Gore is on the board of Apple in every conversation involving them?

Which war-crimes did he commit?

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by dhimes » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 6:54 PM UTC

baddox wrote: post #305

at-fates-hands wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>> It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. Another great example of how partisanship and shitty double standards have ruined our country. The fact is, the vote to invade Iraq was a bi-partisan vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_t... "Introduced in Congress on October 2, 2002, in conjunction with the Administration's proposals,[2][7] H.J.Res. 114 passed the House of Representati…

Is it okay if I intensely disapprove of that war, but also have absolutely no affiliation with or appreciation for any political party, major or otherwise?

I would argue that it is preferred.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by nsxwolf » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 7:04 PM UTC

Rice's views on internet privacy, in light of her support of bulk data collection, are legitimate concerns for her appointment to the board of a company like DropBox.

The war criminal stuff, though, is just pointless. We're all war criminals for supporting this or that candidate. It's just more shades of Eich, grist for purists, but irrelevant to a decision to continue using or boycotting DropBox.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by dang » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 7:05 PM UTC

ebrenes wrote: post #289

wacknack wrote: post #230

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Considering that my normal account was permanently slowed and is apparently unable to post more than once an hour due to this thread, I'd say "hiding" is useful if one wants to express an unpopular opinion on HN, merely to retain the functionality of his normal account.

That's the system working as intended. This site isn't meant to be about rapid back-n-forth banter or quick retorts and small points. If after an hour, what you meant to say isn't worth saying then it's clear it isn't worth having on the site.

That's right, and well put.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by afterburner » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 7:13 PM UTC

nsxwolf wrote: post #332

afterburner wrote: post #271

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The campaign to start the war didn't start with the vote, the vote came at the end of a long campaign of misinformation, orchestrated by the party in power.

Doesn't say much for the opposition party... why were the Democrats so easily duped?

The American people were duped. And it wasn't easy; they had to create a lot of lies, some coming straight from the CIA (being pressured to create a case for war). They put on quite a show at the UN. And when the people get behind something, politicians have to take notice; after all, they can't wield any influence on the process if they don't get voted in. The mood in the country at the time was vengeful, hawkish.

And really it's a separate issue. The point is, who would you rather vote for? Would you really prefer voting for the really successful liars?

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by afterburner » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 7:16 PM UTC

wooter wrote: post #277

afterburner wrote: post #271

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The campaign to start the war didn't start with the vote, the vote came at the end of a long campaign of misinformation, orchestrated by the party in power.

both parties played their role and I hope we hold them both accountable. Have you seen any of Kerry's talks on Syria, Libya, etc.? I also don't feel theres been more justification for our actions in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, or Egypt than Iraq. So changing parties didn't help... at all.

The US under Obama managed to avoid getting involved in a civil war in Syria, despite much rhetoric form the Republicans telling people how weak that supposedly made Obama look. If you prefer to stay out of such conflicts, would you really consider voting for the party that was enthusiastically calling for intervention?