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Post by VikingCoder »

grellas wrote: post #538

Think about what it means to the HN culture to have a subject that normally would have been flagged out of existence as overtly political suddenly be featured front and center in the apparent belief that ideological purity is now a litmus test for who can serve on a board of directors in the startup world. In a free society, people can unite in their business ventures even though they might be far apart in how they v…

I want a company to actively fight the government's intrusion into my data, to ensure that my rights are defended.

With this appointment, I have no faith that the Dropbox Board of Directors see their role this way.

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Post by pbreit »

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #442
macinjosh wrote: post #311

I thought Silicon Valley was dying for more women and minorities to join their ranks! Rice is both so shouldn't we all be elated?! Oh, she's a Republican? Fuck her.

How about she has a questionable approach to privacy and Dropbox is an application where privacy is key?

How about, she's in a remarkable position to help Dropbox become the leading provider with respect to privacy?

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Post by fnimick »

sebastialonso wrote: post #507

>Why is this? Because she was a part of the Bush administration? Because she is a Republican and we should hate Republicans? I mean, come on, isn't Al Gore on Apple's Board? He's no saint! >No. This is not an issue of partisanship. Okay, let's read on then... 3 of the 4 reasons OP explained are directly linked with her being a part of the Bush Administration. I do believe having Ms. Rice on board is a bad idea. But p…

It's not because she was part of the Bush Administration, but what she did while she was there. There's a difference.

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Post by wambotron »

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I don't care if people are of a different belief system than I am as long as they don't directly lead to the deaths of thousands of people.

I think the Eich situation was crazy for sure, but I didn't boycott Mozilla (.. although I don't really use anything from them to begin with). I did delete dropbox, however. I don't want anything to do with Rice.

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Post by thesis »

I've kind of been waiting for a reason to switch to Google Drive because of (mainly) price and a few other factors. While not the main reason, this is the tip of the iceberg.

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Post by droopybuns »

mikeash wrote: post #426
droopybuns wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this offensive and foolish. People should put more effort into holding their politicians accountable while they are in office- not for settling idealogical scores after they reenter private life. We the people have no one to blame but ourselves for this. It is the voter's fault that these people are able to flourish. If we don't take our civic responsibilities seriously, then these kinds of campaigns are petty…

"You need to do more than vote." Could you be more specific? It doesn't help to berate me for not doing more without actually telling me what I can do. Because I feel pretty helpless here and I have no idea what I can do besides vote and talk to people.

I think we need to actively engage. So that means we actually do need to volunteer. We do need to donate. We even need to run for office. I don't know if my experience is a corner case- but every politician I've ever met has been weird. They don't seem like normal americans.

We need to recognize that the world runs on PACs and that if we don't have a PAC to advocate our position, we're not going to get the outcomes we want.

I think we've been raised to believe there's some holy power in our vote- but this is a distraction. Unless we fund our efforts & win in politics, this is all for naught.

I also think that we have to accept when we lose in politics. This campaign is absolutely the opposite of that value. I share many of the opinions about this woman, but I find the campaign to be shameful in light of my previous opinions.

If you claim to value democracy and then execute this kind of witch hunt when democracy doesn't deliver the outcome you hoped for, there is a problem.

"Democracy for me but not for thee"

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Post by api »

Zigurd wrote: post #549
grellas wrote: post #538

Think about what it means to the HN culture to have a subject that normally would have been flagged out of existence as overtly political suddenly be featured front and center in the apparent belief that ideological purity is now a litmus test for who can serve on a board of directors in the startup world. In a free society, people can unite in their business ventures even though they might be far apart in how they v…

One might say "This is different" because trust in US products and services and tens to hundreds of billions of dollars are at stake. As for the "politics" of it, "Are you, or have you ever been part of the surveillance state?" is not a question about one's political views. It is more like the question in Germany "Were you a Stasi officer or informant?"

IMHO actively helping launch an unnecessary war that killed tens of thousands (a very conservative estimate) of civilians while costing hundreds of billions of dollars that could have been spent in ways that benefit the American taxpayer is much worse than supporting PRISM or working for the NSA.

I'm kind of floored that anyone in our industry would appoint a former Bushevik at all.

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Post by thwest »

rmc wrote: post #346
_hgt1 wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike Eich, Rice went far beyond simply holding beliefs and making donations. She held real power and used it in unconscionable ways. Given the current climate, I find it incredible that a cloud storage company would be involved with someone who actually wiretapped members of the UN Security Council. It's almost like they're saying "thanks for all the data, oh and f * you".

Yeah, Eich donated $1,000 to a campaign. Rice ran the campaign .

Would there have been a campaign to run without donors?

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grellas wrote: post #538

Think about what it means to the HN culture to have a subject that normally would have been flagged out of existence as overtly political suddenly be featured front and center in the apparent belief that ideological purity is now a litmus test for who can serve on a board of directors in the startup world. In a free society, people can unite in their business ventures even though they might be far apart in how they v…

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