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Post by orochi235 »

pvnick wrote: post #253

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I absolutely agree with most of the opposition to Condi Rice wrt the illegal war, warrantless wiretaps, torture, etc. On the other hand, I threw a hissy fit over the opposition to Eich based on his beliefs. I'm not sure how I can oppose Rice while standing up for Eich without inconsistency. Anybody else feel conflicted and have some insight? I'm still probably goin…

I hated the Eich thing and I hate this too. Even if she has been wrong about basically everything she was ever put in charge of, this is not how we settle political disputes in a civil society. If you want to stop using Dropbox, fine. If you're a stakeholder in Dropbox, then you have a legitimate interest here. But no one else does.

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Post by tptacek »

glesica wrote: post #144
dctoedt wrote: post #70

I'm as anti-war as the next guy; we military veterans tend to be more so than most, and I've gotten even more so as I've gotten older. Still, there are those who appreciate that: (A) political leaders aren't supermen and -women. Like all of us, they have to make the best decisions they can with the limited information available to them at the time; (A1) [ADDED:] the signal-to-noise ratio can be problematic; the avail…

(C) Saddam Hussein had irrefutably demonstrated that he was willing to use weapons of mass destruction in pursuit of his ambitions: he had used chemical weapons both on Iraqi Kurds and on Iranians (and let's not forget his brutal conquest of Kuwait); And who let him have those weapons and told him to go ahead and use them against the Iranians? He looks lovely in that photo embracing Donald Rumsfeld... So by this stan…

What does this have to do with D.C.'s point?

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Post by Shorel »

msh wrote: post #32
Shorel wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using hubiC in Windows and Linux without issues. They give 25 GB, and respect your privacy (they are based on France).

I tried them but they did not offer any kind of access to previous versions of files which was a show stopper for me.

I started using hubiC because I need a replacement for Ubuntu One.

So far there's no perfect file cloud service, unless you want to also manage your own server.

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Post by boondox »

rmc wrote: post #346
_hgt1 wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlike Eich, Rice went far beyond simply holding beliefs and making donations. She held real power and used it in unconscionable ways. Given the current climate, I find it incredible that a cloud storage company would be involved with someone who actually wiretapped members of the UN Security Council. It's almost like they're saying "thanks for all the data, oh and f * you".

Yeah, Eich donated $1,000 to a campaign. Rice ran the campaign .

Touché...

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Post by talmand »

subsection1h wrote: post #368
talmand wrote: post #275

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So, no chance they were simply wrong? Making a false statement doesn't necessarily mean lying. I seem to recall that at the time EVERYBODY was making the same mistake or, in your words, lying about it.

> I seem to recall that at the time EVERYBODY was making the same mistake Your recollection is wrong. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml

You're right, I didn't recall the totals.

I'll revise my statement to be that most everyone in a leadership position was making the same mistake.

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Post by BrandonMarc »

JackFr wrote: post #317
chez17 wrote: post #220

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One thing I can't stand is about our hyper-partisan culture is that attacking someone from one side is seen as 100% political and there are posts like these that are trying to be "even" when, in fact, it's you yourself that is being partisan here. >It has become an article of faith that the Bush administration acted in bad faith about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, while all that really has ever been shown is t…

The article you point to, to be clear, relies on reports from two non-profit (not not non-partisan) journalism watchdogs. And what they come up with is 'false statements'. They won't go so far as to call them lies, because to be a lie the statement has to be believed to be false by the speaker. You seem to reach the conclusion that it is inconceivable that the Bush Administration believed their own arguments. I not o…

This is what bothers me about modern American politics. Both sides are too quick to demonize the other side, and to disallow the possibility that people on the other side are acting in good faith.

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Post by macinjosh »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #353
mason240 wrote: post #287

Looks like we are living a new age of McCarthyism.

Except McCarthy was seeking to destroy numerous people who had done nothing wrong. Other than that, yeah, it's the same.

Hindsight is 20/20. At the time I'm sure many people believed those targeted by McCarthy had done things wrong.

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Post by orochi235 »

I can't help but notice that whoever is behind this campaign found it necessary to give attribution to the people who produced the images on the page, and provided helpful links to Dropbox's CEO's social media accounts, but didn't bother to sign his own name to the cause. That's the very definition of gutless.
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