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These are exciting times! Companies and their leaders are actually being held accountable directly by the people for their unethical, immoral behaviours by diverting their business elsewhere. It's amazing to know that so many in the tech industry care about these issues.

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Consider that when acting under uncertainty, intelligent, informed people of good will can examine the same set of facts and reach different conclusions. It has become an article of faith that the Bush administration acted in bad faith about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, while all that really has ever been shown is that they were tragically, woefully and extraordinarily wrong. How intelligent, well educated pe…

"informed people of good will can examine the same set of facts and reach different conclusions." Except they weren't talking about available facts to be examined, and their conclusions. What they were doing was presenting a falsehood as a new fact. Without any evidence. It's one thing to say "because of x,yz, we think they have WMDs". What they did was: "THEY HAVE WMDs!!!" (evidence to be examined will be provided s…

>> What they were doing was presenting a falsehood as a new fact. Without any evidence.

Clinton stated they had WMD's long before Bush. There are mass grave sites in Iraq which proves they had them. The truth the anti-Bush people need to face is ... where are those weapons today?

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcript...

Re: Drop Dropbox

#365
I read through the whole site... where are the instructions on deleting a Dropbox account?

Not that it was very hard, but the link is non obvious in the Dropbox account settings, spent a couple more minutes than I'd like.

For those interested, this is a link from the support page:

https://www.dropbox.com/account/delete

Re: Drop Dropbox

#366
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It's an American company (Barracuda Inc.)

Any no bullshit European companies that can match the quality of Dropbox software? I hate that I even have to make decisions like this, what the fuck kind of world are we living in.

younited by F-Secure (Finnish)? http://www.younited.com/

There's political debate currently in Finland about giving police and intelligence the same kind of legal framework for access as the NSA has had in the US. But so far the proposals have been resisted. Mikko Hyppönen https://twitter.com/mikko and some others have been talking a lot publicly about making Finland a data haven with strong protections for privacy. Maybe they'll even succeed.

Re: Drop Dropbox

#367

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Obama pulled all combat troops out of Iraq after they were told to leave.

According to an agreed timetable signed by Bush and Iraqi leadership.

According to the request of the democratically elected Iraqi leadership and the inability of the Obama and Iraqi leaderships to negotiate something mutually beneficial.

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One thing I can't stand is about our hyper-partisan culture is that attacking someone from one side is seen as 100% political and there are posts like these that are trying to be "even" when, in fact, it's you yourself that is being partisan here. >It has become an article of faith that the Bush administration acted in bad faith about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, while all that really has ever been shown is t…

So, no chance they were simply wrong? Making a false statement doesn't necessarily mean lying. I seem to recall that at the time EVERYBODY was making the same mistake or, in your words, lying about it.

> I seem to recall that at the time EVERYBODY was making the same mistake

Your recollection is wrong.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml

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One thing I can't stand is about our hyper-partisan culture is that attacking someone from one side is seen as 100% political and there are posts like these that are trying to be "even" when, in fact, it's you yourself that is being partisan here. >It has become an article of faith that the Bush administration acted in bad faith about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, while all that really has ever been shown is t…

The article you point to, to be clear, relies on reports from two non-profit (not not non-partisan) journalism watchdogs. And what they come up with is 'false statements'. They won't go so far as to call them lies, because to be a lie the statement has to be believed to be false by the speaker. You seem to reach the conclusion that it is inconceivable that the Bush Administration believed their own arguments. I not o…

>I am not interested in arguing the WMD in Iraq debate. I ask you to please assume good faith on the part of your ideological opponents. Try to understand their arguments on their terms, and see where you differ fundamentally.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Why do you assume they are my ideological opponents? Are you assuming I'm a liberal in this case? This is the hyper-partisan culture I'm talking about. I do assume good faith from people who disagree with me, there comes a point when an intelligent person must look at the evidence provided and adapt their view. People hide behind the "both sides" argument in an attempt to be wise and fair, when in reality that can be the most partisan of all point of views. People are wrong sometimes. People lie sometimes. Not acknowledging this is not wise. Some arguments don't have "both sides", some have one side, some have two sides, some have fifty sides. Remember that.

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