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Post by _hgt1 »

pvnick wrote: post #253

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I absolutely agree with most of the opposition to Condi Rice wrt the illegal war, warrantless wiretaps, torture, etc. On the other hand, I threw a hissy fit over the opposition to Eich based on his beliefs. I'm not sure how I can oppose Rice while standing up for Eich without inconsistency. Anybody else feel conflicted and have some insight? I'm still probably goin…

Unlike Eich, Rice went far beyond simply holding beliefs and making donations. She held real power and used it in unconscionable ways.

Given the current climate, I find it incredible that a cloud storage company would be involved with someone who actually wiretapped members of the UN Security Council. It's almost like they're saying "thanks for all the data, oh and f* you".

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Post by atmosx »

EC1 wrote: post #89
bambax wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an American company (Barracuda Inc.)

Any no bullshit European companies that can match the quality of Dropbox software? I hate that I even have to make decisions like this, what the fuck kind of world are we living in.

Wuala Switzerland (run by Lacie inc.)

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Post by cubicle67 »

steve_benjamins wrote: post #293
spktrthhrts wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a difference between Eich and Rice. Eich didn't torture and murder people.

You are inferring that being in a US administration while US sanctioned murder and torture occurs, means that the leader therefore murdered and tortured people. Which puts Condi in a large group of people: nearly every member of a US administration in the last century. Edit: Jesus. A lot of people missed the point of what I said. All I did was argue the issue is more nuanced than "[Condi Rice] tortured and murdered p…

Rice wasn't just there, she played an active role in making it happen.

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Post by netcan »

jshen wrote: post #137
netcan wrote: post #100

I'm not American, so this is a little removed for me. In truth I don't really see big enough (non cosmetic) differences between the parties or administrations to justify the partisanship you guys seem to have. What bother me here is not Condoleezza Rice specifically. Every ranking official of any country (or company) owns a big share of that country's sins and there are no "clean" administrations. Complicity is the p…

The bush administration asserted that it could detain anyone without a trial and torture them. This is not equivalent to any average administration as you implied.

I agree this was bad. I disagree that it was uniquely bad. I strongly feel that it's a red herring.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but Americans seem have become easier to whip into a tribal-political rage recently. That in itself is dangerous. It makes the country more susceptible to populism.

To me, this immediately registers as a visible hint at problems in the system which are never eliminated but need to be constantly challenged to keep them to a tolerable level.

It's a sign that there is a market where political capital and influence is being acquired, traded and sold. It implies crony capitalism, corruption, class entrenchment. If your reaction is 'Look a Republican! Charge!' then you bury the other stuff. The real, genuine, scary problems with the system, not a party and not an old administration.

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Post by icebraining »

steve_benjamins wrote: post #293
spktrthhrts wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a difference between Eich and Rice. Eich didn't torture and murder people.

You are inferring that being in a US administration while US sanctioned murder and torture occurs, means that the leader therefore murdered and tortured people. Which puts Condi in a large group of people: nearly every member of a US administration in the last century. Edit: Jesus. A lot of people missed the point of what I said. All I did was argue the issue is more nuanced than "[Condi Rice] tortured and murdered p…

Seems like a stretch to put the Secretary of State who "gave verbal approval to CIA Director George Tenet to continue using harsh interrogation methods, including waterboarding and stress positions" and, say, the Special Assistant of the Office of Social Innovation and Civic Participation, in the same bag.

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Post by nice1 »

pvnick wrote: post #253

I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand, I absolutely agree with most of the opposition to Condi Rice wrt the illegal war, warrantless wiretaps, torture, etc. On the other hand, I threw a hissy fit over the opposition to Eich based on his beliefs. I'm not sure how I can oppose Rice while standing up for Eich without inconsistency. Anybody else feel conflicted and have some insight? I'm still probably goin…

It is a matter of judgement. On the one hand you have a guy donating to what he feels is a good/rational cause. On the other we have one complicit in war crimes and squandering America's wealth for a generation. I have no problem making up my own mind.

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Post by bsaul »

joemaller1 wrote: post #43

I was wondering how long this would take. Thoughtcrime is here. The quest for ideological purity is kneecapping our future. Shutting out half of the brainpool because they hold opposing views about disconnected topics is a recipe for societal failure.

I couldn't agree more. We have a very easy task identifying right-wing style totalitarism, but apparently sillicon valley has a blind eye when it's coming from its left.

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Post by streptomycin »

biden423 wrote: post #252
chasing wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In truth I don't really see big enough (non cosmetic) differences between the parties or administrations to justify the partisanship you guys seem to have. Then you don't know American politics. How different might the country be had Gore been seated as President in 2001 after winning the election?

Umm, I think you're the one who doesn't know American politics. "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Ridiculous. Read the full speech and see how its message compares with your cherry-picked quotes: http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html
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