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Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by 001sky »

stephencanon wrote: post #220
001sky wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you seriously comparing being POTUS/SS of a global, nuclear superpower with a mid-level exec working with pepperidge farms? No dis-respect. But C'mon. People get these gigs because they have connections and are pawns in larger power games. Those games scale in proportion to the power in-volved. Sec. State Clinton was on the hook for a bunch of bad stuff (drones/cia etc) and is likely going to be the next POTUS. W…

No, I'm not. I'm saying that children are not their parents. Full stop.

There are two more complicating factors involved:

1) Patronage 101 is rewarding the parent through doing favours for the child.

2) The decisionmaking of a junior person can be manipulated in its own right+

I don't think anyone needs to agree/argue with your point to see how its at best an incomplete understanding of the situation.

The same would be true in ancient rome, mideival florence, or the courts of eurpe in the 18th C.

[+] ... more easily

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by schintan »

cryoshon wrote: post #116
notd97843 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without looking at the facts? Guilty until proven innocent? Good for him for convicting others of war crimes without any due process?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condolezza_Rice#Iraq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condolezza_Rice#Role_in_authori... The facts have been on the record for years now. She's guilty, but there will never be a formal trial specifically because power will never turn on one of their own if there's nothing to gain.

Was there a similar outcry when she joined the Stanford faculty ? Did everyone decide to shun Stanford ? If not , I am curious why her being a faculty member was acceptable and being on the board of Dropbox is not, since the outrage is for her being a liar and a war perpetrator and not due to her skills for the job.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by cruise02 »

macinjosh wrote: post #222
cruise02 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please get your facts straight. * The Iraq war ended in 2011, and the Afghanistan war is winding down. * The Obama administration has attempted to close Guantanamo, only to be blocked by Congress. * We are no longer in the financial crisis left by the previous administration. * Obama ordered an end to torture on his first day in office. * Global attitudes about the United States have improved dramatically since 2008,…

Oh ok. So replacing war with unmanned drones and a kill list that includes Americans, continuing horribly intrusive surveillance programs, and cracking down on more whistle blowers than any administration in history is SO much better. Everyone's shit stinks Golly gee, I wonder why I didn't vote for him again in 2012? When will people realize the two party system is a farce? Both parties are largely the same and neith…

Read the parent comments. I was replying to five specific points that were made. I never said that anyone's shit doesn't stink.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by ryguytilidie »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #200
cryoshon wrote: post #29

Well, that's the end of my usage of Dropbox, effective immediately. I'll make sure to mention Condi's association with them in every conversation involving Dropbox, in hope of spreading knowledge about their profane selection of board members. It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. These people should be in prison for malevolently misleading the public in order to start a for-profit war which killed hundred…

>>> It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. Another great example of how partisanship and shitty double standards have ruined our country. The fact is, the vote to invade Iraq was a bi-partisan vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_t... "Introduced in Congress on October 2, 2002, in conjunction with the Administration's proposals,[2][7] H.J.Res. 114 passed the House of Representati…

So your point is that our country is being ruined because people believe Bush and his cronies lead us to war. You believe that they did not lead us to war because both parties, after receiving misinformation from the bush administration, voted in favor of it. See anything wrong with your logic here?

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by spktrthhrts »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #200
cryoshon wrote: post #29

Well, that's the end of my usage of Dropbox, effective immediately. I'll make sure to mention Condi's association with them in every conversation involving Dropbox, in hope of spreading knowledge about their profane selection of board members. It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. These people should be in prison for malevolently misleading the public in order to start a for-profit war which killed hundred…

>>> It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. Another great example of how partisanship and shitty double standards have ruined our country. The fact is, the vote to invade Iraq was a bi-partisan vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_t... "Introduced in Congress on October 2, 2002, in conjunction with the Administration's proposals,[2][7] H.J.Res. 114 passed the House of Representati…

Ok, so it was both parties.

But Condoloza Rice could have spoken out about the illegal torture and abuse. She chose not to. In fact she chose to defend it.

That's why she is now responsible for and a symbol of warcrimes.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by cruise02 »

ad_hominem wrote: post #219
cruise02 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please get your facts straight. * The Iraq war ended in 2011, and the Afghanistan war is winding down. * The Obama administration has attempted to close Guantanamo, only to be blocked by Congress. * We are no longer in the financial crisis left by the previous administration. * Obama ordered an end to torture on his first day in office. * Global attitudes about the United States have improved dramatically since 2008,…

You should get some of yours straight. * Obama followed the Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) that Bush had signed. He did not accelerate withdrawal of troops at all - if Bush was still president it would have been the same timeline. He also promised to get us out Afghanistan immediately, but he lied: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn134-KLL7Y * Obama could release all prisoners of Guantanamo right now (that's…

The fact that the Obama administration withdrew American troops from Iraq on schedule does not refute the fact that it did withdraw them.

He was not just blocked in attempting to transfer prisoners, he was blocked from having them tried in American courts.

The rest of your points don't seem to be related to the ones I was refuting. No administration is flawless. I was only pointing out that the parent comment to mine (specifically) was completely incorrect. Any other black marks against the current administration are beside that point.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by nraynaud »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #200
cryoshon wrote: post #29

Well, that's the end of my usage of Dropbox, effective immediately. I'll make sure to mention Condi's association with them in every conversation involving Dropbox, in hope of spreading knowledge about their profane selection of board members. It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. These people should be in prison for malevolently misleading the public in order to start a for-profit war which killed hundred…

>>> It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. Another great example of how partisanship and shitty double standards have ruined our country. The fact is, the vote to invade Iraq was a bi-partisan vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_t... "Introduced in Congress on October 2, 2002, in conjunction with the Administration's proposals,[2][7] H.J.Res. 114 passed the House of Representati…

"There are two options:

- The option of war might seem a priori to be the swiftest. But let us not forget that having won the war, one has to build peace. Let us not delude ourselves; this will be long and difficult because it will be necessary to preserve Iraq's unity and restore stability in a lasting way in a country and region harshly affected by the intrusion of force.

- Faced with such perspectives, there is an alternative in the inspections which allow us to move forward day by day with the effective and peaceful disarmament of Iraq. In the end is that choice not the most sure and most rapid?

No one can assert today that the path of war will be shorter than that of the inspections. No one can claim either that it might lead to a safer, more just and more stable world. For war is always the sanction of failure. Would this be our sole recourse in the face of the many challenges at this time?"

"This message comes to you today from an old country, France, from a continent like mine, Europe, that has known wars, occupation and barbarity. A country that does not forget and knows everything it owes to the freedom-fighters who came from America and elsewhere. And yet has never ceased to stand upright in the face of history and before mankind. Faithful to its values, it wishes resolutely to act with all the members of the international community. It believes in our ability to build together a better world."

(this is a speech by a conservative guy, but a well travelled one)

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by stefanu »

bambax wrote: post #28
vdaniuk wrote: post #13

Sooo, will we be seeing a repeat of the Eich-like public outcry? Though I may understand the business rationale for this hire, I certainly wont trust founders, board or anyone else at Dropbox who is OK working with a person that is partially responsible for deaths of thousands(arguably hundreds of thousands) people in the Iraq war based on false premises about "WMD". Oh, and we shouldn't forget about her role in "enh…

I feel just like you but rely on Dropbox so much. What serious alternatives are they? (preferably, non-US-based?)

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