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Post by peerbreed »

antonius wrote: post #4

When looking to grow our board, we sought out a leader who could help us expand our global footprint. Condoleezza sure left a global footprint in the Middle East alright. Hate do this Dropbox, but time for me to move on. Edit: Suggestions for a Dropbox substitute?

I could honestly care less about Dr. Rice being on the board of directors or not. Is she going to start a program to torture users of Dropbox? If that comes to pass, it may be a cause for concern. Other than that it appears that Dropbox is adding an accomplished and intelligent person to their board. Is who ever made this website, going to run around and try to get Dr. Rice fired from every job she gets? It really does appear that this is a personal vendetta of some sort.

However! I do welcome the thought of people looking for alternatives to Dropbox. I consider trusting your information with a propriety company based in the US, to be quite foolish these days. Personally I use Owncloud. It's open source. You can run it from your personal server. Owncloud has clients for Linux, Window, MAC, Android and IOS. You can also access your information through any web browser. To put the cherry on top, Owncloud has the capabilities to sync contacts, calendars and bookmarks across your all devices. It's a great piece of software and should suit those looking for an alternative.

http://owncloud.org/

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Post by ralfn »

jpwagner wrote: post #50

I don't get this kind of stuff. I'm sure it's based on good intentions, but this will just lead to MORE nepotism and less transparency because the price of negative press is that much greater. It feels similar to the hit on the Mozilla guy, which really rubbed me the wrong way. For all I know he clubs baby seals in his free time, but nobody bothered to investigate the truth until it was too late. One individual or gr…

Wait .. are war-criminals now an oppressed minority? Not that i'm convinced she is a war-criminal, but it's not an easily refutable position, is it?.

On the other hand. It stands to reason Dropbox wants a well connected politician on their board, so they can lobby against the NSA style policies that are negatively affecting their international sales.

>One individual or group, finally crawling out of being persecuted, deciding to persecute another is just plain disgusting.

And this is just disingenious. This was not the case with the Mozilla guy, nor is this the case here. For starters: gays are still being persecuted in many US and international jurisdictions. That war, and it is a war for civil rights, is still ongoing. Secondly, it's not a group that is being targetted but specific individuals because of their complicity in what is essentially a hate-crime they just got away with. That's like arguing we shouldn't perscute/target nazi-collaborators in the middle of WWII. (although one can argue perscuting collaborators after the war, wasn't the moral high ground either)

But, on a more meta level. I think the tech sector is getting more into politics, because the politics are getting more into the tech sector. Consider the NSA, net-neutrality, DMCA or all the twitter powered revolutions. I mean, the internet is essentially fueling a proccess of globalisation and democratisation, that has a lot of political implications.

We can no longer pretend technology isn't a political weapon of change, because the powers that be, are getting more and more aware of this.

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Post by [deleted] »

krallja wrote: post #230
EC1 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You must be absolutely certain about every issue When was the last time you were absolutely certain about something? Are you always absolutely certain in your day to day life, let alone in the shoes of someone like Rice?

WHOOSH

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Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by gnufied »

netcan wrote: post #100

I'm not American, so this is a little removed for me. In truth I don't really see big enough (non cosmetic) differences between the parties or administrations to justify the partisanship you guys seem to have. What bother me here is not Condoleezza Rice specifically. Every ranking official of any country (or company) owns a big share of that country's sins and there are no "clean" administrations. Complicity is the p…

Agreed and this begs the question where does Dropbox sits with surveillance thing because US govt. makes it clear that non-americans are fair game.

So as a non-american I am asking - will Ms. Rice work to protect data that we trust Dropbox with or when Dropbox is asked to turn over our data (of non-americans) will she advise Dropbox board to play along and not give a damn about our data.

Knowingly I will not support a company that works with politician who are known to support and subvert privacy of individuals.

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Post by whistlerbrk »

Oh please. Every American here, myself included, started the war in Iraq and helped pass the Patriot Act by electing these buffoons and not throwing them out of office. The fault is within ourselves.

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Post by gdulli »

netcan wrote: post #100

I'm not American, so this is a little removed for me. In truth I don't really see big enough (non cosmetic) differences between the parties or administrations to justify the partisanship you guys seem to have. What bother me here is not Condoleezza Rice specifically. Every ranking official of any country (or company) owns a big share of that country's sins and there are no "clean" administrations. Complicity is the p…

> In truth I don't really see big enough (non cosmetic) differences between the parties or administrations to justify the partisanship you guys seem to have.

Right at the beginning of the page: "This is not an issue of partisanship" and then it launches into detailed points about Rice as an individual.

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Post by unreal37 »

Touche wrote: post #93
dctoedt wrote: post #70

I'm as anti-war as the next guy; we military veterans tend to be more so than most, and I've gotten even more so as I've gotten older. Still, there are those who appreciate that: (A) political leaders aren't supermen and -women. Like all of us, they have to make the best decisions they can with the limited information available to them at the time; (A1) [ADDED:] the signal-to-noise ratio can be problematic; the avail…

Sorry, but tempered reasoning like this is not acceptable in the maximalist society we have today. You must be absolutely certain about every issue and realize that those who disagree are evil, intentionally so, full-stop.

You have to tag this with /sarcasm. Some may downvote you thinking you are serious.

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Post by paulhauggis »

Why does it seem like all of these campaigns are against right-leaning people?

if this is the kind of tactics you need to use to win, I hope you never win.

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by dzink »

joshstrange wrote: post #216
dzink wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Because by joining the board she has a fiduciary duty to protect the interests of the company, especially when those conflict with others including her personal interest. - Because if CEO had to hire someone to help them do that, a former secretary of state would be one of the best choices (albeit Hillary might be a bit busy).

>> Because by joining the board she has a fiduciary duty to protect the interests of the company And when serving as Secretary of State she had a responsibility to the American people but we see how well that worked out...

The NSA grew under the Obama administration. Does that mean he needs to be crucified as well? There is no evidence whatsoever that Rice currently has a sinister agenda that goes against anything or anyone. Why crucify one of YC's best and his company for of hiring someone who knows and can get results?

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Post by vdaniuk »

dangayle wrote: post #238

But Guido van Rossum works for Dropbox, are we supposed to not support Guido? These witch hunts hurt a lot of people, much more than the single figurehead that everyone get all up in arms over.

I would really like Guido to quit dropbox. I can't imagine meeting the person responsible for numerous atrocities near the cooler and having a small talk about the weather, then returning to my workplace to continue business as usual.

edit: Guido is BDFL, it is expected of him to uphold professional and ethical standarts of the community, so this is directly related.

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