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Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by biden423 »

cruise02 wrote: post #146
sigzero wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All continued by the current administration and more. What was your point again?

Please get your facts straight. * The Iraq war ended in 2011, and the Afghanistan war is winding down. * The Obama administration has attempted to close Guantanamo, only to be blocked by Congress. * We are no longer in the financial crisis left by the previous administration. * Obama ordered an end to torture on his first day in office. * Global attitudes about the United States have improved dramatically since 2008,…

* President Barack Obama selects Joe Biden as his vice president, the same person who voted for the Iraq War

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Post by hueving »

acjohnson55 wrote: post #16

I hope she hasn't ever donated to any disagreeable referendum campaigns..... ....or ever been a core member of an administration that left us with two disastrous wars, an offshore gulag, the greatest economic disaster in 70 years, a record of legitimizing torture, a decline in prestige on the world stage. Oh, and a strong record or rejecting marriage equality.

>the greatest economic disaster in 70 years

The housing crisis started well before the Bush administration. The affordable housing act was what enabled banks to start issuing loans without worrying about risk.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by streptomycin »

ekianjo wrote: post #175

> Rice is a famous figure, known in almost equal parts for her ferocious intelligence, and controversial role in the Bush administration, which included comments on alleged weapons of mass destruction that Saddam Hussein was thought at the time to possess. TC needs to correct that last sentence: "weapons of mass destruction that Saddam Hussein was KNOWN NOT TO possess" would be more correct in light of what actually…

I would say it was more like "weapons of mass destruction that Saddam Hussein was HOPED TO possess". The Bush administration had a bit of circumstantial evidence that they sold to the world as definitive evidence, but they didn't actually know that there were no WMDs.

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Post by clavalle »

gfsdg4g54 wrote: post #189
DominikR wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's usually the first thing that war criminals come up with to shield themselves from prosecution. "They just didn't know better" It doesn't matter if they knew or didn't, they are responsible for what they did. If ignorance was sufficient, they'd place a donkey in the white house and wash their hands in innocence.

You're accusing her of war crimes. The burden of proof is on you to prove that she is a war criminal. Cite admissible evidence only, please (not Wikipedia links). We can try her in court once you give us the evidence. You only have to meet the plausible cause standard.

Ok. Do we get a discovery process where we can sift through all of the correspondence and information they had in the run up to the Iraq war?

No? It will be released 25 years after the fact /if/ they are not ordered to remained sealed.

I guess we'll have to wait a little while for your admissible evidence. How convenient.

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Post by stephencanon »

Kiro wrote: post #196
cryoshon wrote: post #29

Well, that's the end of my usage of Dropbox, effective immediately. I'll make sure to mention Condi's association with them in every conversation involving Dropbox, in hope of spreading knowledge about their profane selection of board members. It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. These people should be in prison for malevolently misleading the public in order to start a for-profit war which killed hundred…

I don't have a real opinion about the Iraq war but do you think it was wrong to overthrow Saddam Hussein?

It was certainly morally wrong to overthrow Hussein without a clear plan to stabilize the country once the government had been deposed, and without committing sufficient military and monetary resources to do so.

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Post by 001sky »

stephencanon wrote: post #199
001sky wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure none of this is relevant but (a) her dad is ex POTUS of a global superpower; and/or (b) her mom was Secretary of state of that global superpower. They also have the son of the wife of the CEO but that's a little different, she was a fashion designer. Condi was (b) so they are basically the same relation to the US gov't. I think the generalization that US foreign policy has radically changed its ethics or its…

My mother was an advertising art director, and I learned a lot from her, but you wouldn't say that I was basically responsible for pepperidge farm's late 1970s branding, would you? I don't think one should equate her actions (or even political beliefs) with those of her parents.

Are you seriously comparing being POTUS/SS of a global, nuclear superpower with a mid-level exec working with pepperidge farms? No dis-respect. But C'mon. People get these gigs because they have connections and are pawns in larger power games. Those games scale in proportion to the power in-volved. Sec. State Clinton was on the hook for a bunch of bad stuff (drones/cia etc) and is likely going to be the next POTUS. Which means she be put into these positions again. It's impossible to separate that stuff out from the job {title} itself. Someone has to make alot of ugly tradeoffs and thankless decisions.

The over-personalization of stuff though seems a bit less enlightened. But YMMV.

That being said, this is good energy to harness and use for the next election.

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Post by [deleted] »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #200
cryoshon wrote: post #29

Well, that's the end of my usage of Dropbox, effective immediately. I'll make sure to mention Condi's association with them in every conversation involving Dropbox, in hope of spreading knowledge about their profane selection of board members. It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. These people should be in prison for malevolently misleading the public in order to start a for-profit war which killed hundred…

>>> It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. Another great example of how partisanship and shitty double standards have ruined our country. The fact is, the vote to invade Iraq was a bi-partisan vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_t... "Introduced in Congress on October 2, 2002, in conjunction with the Administration's proposals,[2][7] H.J.Res. 114 passed the House of Representati…

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Post by jgreen10 »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #200
cryoshon wrote: post #29

Well, that's the end of my usage of Dropbox, effective immediately. I'll make sure to mention Condi's association with them in every conversation involving Dropbox, in hope of spreading knowledge about their profane selection of board members. It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. These people should be in prison for malevolently misleading the public in order to start a for-profit war which killed hundred…

>>> It's a shame that they had to pick a Bush crony. Another great example of how partisanship and shitty double standards have ruined our country. The fact is, the vote to invade Iraq was a bi-partisan vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_t... "Introduced in Congress on October 2, 2002, in conjunction with the Administration's proposals,[2][7] H.J.Res. 114 passed the House of Representati…

You seem to have forgotten that the Bush administration knowingly lied about the intentions and capabilities of Saddam Hussein in order to gain support for the war.

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Post by ad_hominem »

cruise02 wrote: post #146
sigzero wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All continued by the current administration and more. What was your point again?

Please get your facts straight. * The Iraq war ended in 2011, and the Afghanistan war is winding down. * The Obama administration has attempted to close Guantanamo, only to be blocked by Congress. * We are no longer in the financial crisis left by the previous administration. * Obama ordered an end to torture on his first day in office. * Global attitudes about the United States have improved dramatically since 2008,…

You should get some of yours straight.

* Obama followed the Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) that Bush had signed. He did not accelerate withdrawal of troops at all - if Bush was still president it would have been the same timeline. He also promised to get us out Afghanistan immediately, but he lied: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn134-KLL7Y

* Obama could release all prisoners of Guantanamo right now (that's what you generally do when you don't have evidence to convict someone). He was only blocked in attempting to transfer them elsewhere.

Here are some more facts to chew on.

* He has maintained a personal "kill list," one murdered target of which was an American citizen. [1] Other American citizens, including a 16-year old boy[2], have been killed abroad by drone strikes under his watch.

* He signed Patriot Act and FISA Amendment Acts extensions

* He campaigned on ending warrantless surveillance, instead he greatly expanded it

* He signed the NDAA bill w/ indefinite detention provisions after saying that he had "reservations"[3] about it. Proved a liar when he instructed DoJ to fight lawsuit challenging the provisions.

* He has appointed lobbyists to numerous positions of power in the federal gov't (one of them being from Monsanto to the FDA[4]), after campaigning strongly against the practice.

edit: Forgot to mention his wars on whistleblowers.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki#Abdulrahman_al...

[3]: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/31/obama-defense-bill_...

[4]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Taylor

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Post by stephencanon »

001sky wrote: post #216
stephencanon wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My mother was an advertising art director, and I learned a lot from her, but you wouldn't say that I was basically responsible for pepperidge farm's late 1970s branding, would you? I don't think one should equate her actions (or even political beliefs) with those of her parents.

Are you seriously comparing being POTUS/SS of a global, nuclear superpower with a mid-level exec working with pepperidge farms? No dis-respect. But C'mon. People get these gigs because they have connections and are pawns in larger power games. Those games scale in proportion to the power in-volved. Sec. State Clinton was on the hook for a bunch of bad stuff (drones/cia etc) and is likely going to be the next POTUS. W…

No, I'm not. I'm saying that children are not their parents. Full stop.
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