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Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by 6cxs2hd6 » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 2:36 PM UTC

mattzito wrote: post #110

mcv wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, this feels totally different from the Eich case. His political beliefs has nothing to do with Mozilla's product. However, giving someone who approves of wiretaps an important position in a company that people trust with their data, seems like an unbelievably bad idea. It's not just about whether someone in the company has an opinion I find despicable, it's about whether my own data is still safe.

She's an independent board member. She does not have the ability, in practice, to do anything other than vote on compensation and various other corporate policies. And if all it takes to get dropbox execs to turn over data is fiscal threats from a board member who is a former government employee, then they were going to give up long before Condi shows up on the board. EDIT: and I just want to be clear. If you just do…

Agreed. Usually the motivation to have someone like Rice on your board, is to have more government connections, for the purpose of not doing what the government wants. i.e. Influencing the government, as opposed to it influencing you.

Edit: Admittedly this can be a bargain with the devil, and backfire.

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by higherpurpose » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 2:36 PM UTC

antonius wrote: post #4

When looking to grow our board, we sought out a leader who could help us expand our global footprint. Condoleezza sure left a global footprint in the Middle East alright. Hate do this Dropbox, but time for me to move on. Edit: Suggestions for a Dropbox substitute?

Mediafire also offers 1 TB for $5 (first month is $2.5 or something).

https://www.mediafire.com/upgrade/

If you want something with strong security and privacy, there's https://spideroak.com/

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by sugarfactory » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 2:36 PM UTC

You shouldn't use any of the alternatives listed here either. Because none of those supports encryption. All the cloud storage services which do not provide encryption are unexceptionally evil. Because given the easiness of implementing an encryption feature, not to implement it means the administrators of a service are willing to see users' files.

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by glesica » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 2:37 PM UTC

dctoedt wrote: post #70

I'm as anti-war as the next guy; we military veterans tend to be more so than most, and I've gotten even more so as I've gotten older. Still, there are those who appreciate that: (A) political leaders aren't supermen and -women. Like all of us, they have to make the best decisions they can with the limited information available to them at the time; (A1) [ADDED:] the signal-to-noise ratio can be problematic; the avail…

(C) Saddam Hussein had irrefutably demonstrated that he was willing to use weapons of mass destruction in pursuit of his ambitions: he had used chemical weapons both on Iraqi Kurds and on Iranians (and let's not forget his brutal conquest of Kuwait);

And who let him have those weapons and told him to go ahead and use them against the Iranians? He looks lovely in that photo embracing Donald Rumsfeld... So by this standard, many members of the US government had also shown willingness to use weapons of mass destruction. If this disqualified Hussein as a legitimate world leader, then why was Rumsfeld allowed in government?

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by acconrad » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 2:37 PM UTC

If we collectively invested 1/10th of this passion towards real problems (like boycotting mega banks for the billions they stole during the financial crisis) instead of whether or not my free hard drive is advised by a ex-high-ranking politician, we'd be getting a lot more done.

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by Zsolt » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 2:37 PM UTC

EC1 wrote: post #89

bambax wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an American company (Barracuda Inc.)

Any no bullshit European companies that can match the quality of Dropbox software? I hate that I even have to make decisions like this, what the fuck kind of world are we living in.

You should look into Tresorit.

https://tresorit.com

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by luos » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 2:37 PM UTC

EC1 wrote: post #89

bambax wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an American company (Barracuda Inc.)

Any no bullshit European companies that can match the quality of Dropbox software? I hate that I even have to make decisions like this, what the fuck kind of world are we living in.

There is tresorit ( https://tresorit.com/ ), but depending on what you want to do, they seem to be a little expensive.

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by xandersvk » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 2:37 PM UTC

antonius wrote: post #4

When looking to grow our board, we sought out a leader who could help us expand our global footprint. Condoleezza sure left a global footprint in the Middle East alright. Hate do this Dropbox, but time for me to move on. Edit: Suggestions for a Dropbox substitute?

MEGA! it's end-to-end encrypted and 50GB free! they already have desktop client for windows and will also release for Linux and OSX shortly.

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by humancontact » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 2:37 PM UTC

sdegutis wrote: post #105

tomasien wrote: post #52

Dropping Mozilla because Eich is anti-gay-marriage made sense to me because Mozilla is the beacon of open source. Mozilla belongs to us in a very personal way, many of us have contributed code to Firefox personally. But Condi Rice joining a completely private Dropbox as a board member - this is a non-issue. I'm as strongly anti-Bush administration and anti-war in general (especially the Iraq War - good grief) as anyo…

Can't we just keep software and politics separate? Do we really need to divide ourselves in yet another area because of differences of opinion?

Unfortunately there's no division as to where politics is allowed to interfere. From Wikipedia[1]:

Politics is the process observed in all human (and many non-human) group interactions by which groups make decisions, including activism on behalf of specific issues or causes.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_%28disambiguation%29

Re: Drop Dropbox

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Post by higherpurpose » Thu, Apr 10, 2014, 2:37 PM UTC

Cyph0n wrote: post #68

antonius wrote: post #4

When looking to grow our board, we sought out a leader who could help us expand our global footprint. Condoleezza sure left a global footprint in the Middle East alright. Hate do this Dropbox, but time for me to move on. Edit: Suggestions for a Dropbox substitute?

OneDrive is phenomenal. I've been using it for the past year or so and it's been a breeze.

I'd like something a little more privacy-friendly, not that plays "team games" with NSA.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-c...