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Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by valarauca1 »

Karunamon wrote: post #102
valarauca1 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your forgetting she's not only on the record supporting anonymous bulk data collection, AND warrentless wiretapping. She was a key figure of the administration that created such legislation to start with.

Damn.. I'd forgotten about that. I'll definitely consider hosting my truecrypt volume elsewhere once my two years of free 50gb is up..

BTsync is free as in beer, its a bit better.

Mega offers 50GB of sync for free.

Both are -okay-, if you have a spare server owncloud exists.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by tomp »

sigzero wrote: post #65
tomp wrote: post #9

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For me, the problem is her involvement with the Bush Iraq fiasco. Lying about weapons of mass destruction.

Then you must hate everyone. Everyone in Congress believed it. Multiple countries around the world believed it too. Good luck with that attitude.

They believe it because Bush and Rice said so. They, on the other hand, had all of the US intelligence services to provide them with data.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by valarauca1 »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #122
valarauca1 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your forgetting she's not only on the record supporting anonymous bulk data collection, AND warrentless wiretapping. She was a key figure of the administration that created such legislation to start with.

That seems directly counter to the goal of her helping them expand internationally. The person behind that legislation doesn't seem like the person who'd talk China etc. into opening up.

Also there is no way the person who helped destroy relations with the EU will help build business in the EU.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by venomsnake »

sigzero wrote: post #65
tomp wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, the problem is her involvement with the Bush Iraq fiasco. Lying about weapons of mass destruction.

Then you must hate everyone. Everyone in Congress believed it. Multiple countries around the world believed it too. Good luck with that attitude.

Europe didn't buy the lies. There were a lot of rallies against the war. And UK is not political part of Europe. It is more like 52'nd US state.

Russia and China were meh.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by ekianjo »

> Rice is a famous figure, known in almost equal parts for her ferocious intelligence, and controversial role in the Bush administration, which included comments on alleged weapons of mass destruction that Saddam Hussein was thought at the time to possess.

TC needs to correct that last sentence: "weapons of mass destruction that Saddam Hussein was KNOWN NOT TO possess" would be more correct in light of what actually occurred behind the scenes.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by nikcub »

hg54yghf wrote: post #168
nikcub wrote: post #160

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This really shouldn't need to be pointed out: but the difference is that none of these people have been appointed to the board of any tech company. In 10 years time if Facebook put James Clapper or Eric Holder on their board it'd likely be more controversial.

Are you serious? Al Gore is on various boards, including Apple. He also supported the war. Will you stop using Apple products now? You're not a hypocrite, are you?

Al Gore was appointed to the board of Apple prior to the Iraq war. Here is the Slashdot thread from when he joined, there wasn't much controversial about him at the time other than 'huh, he invented the internet':

http://apple-beta.slashdot.org/story/03/03/19/2246212/al-gor...

He wasn't in congress during the Iraq war vote.

There is a very wide bridge between having a personal opinion as a private citizen in agreeing with the war (as Gore did) and being part of a group of people who planned, orchestrated, operated & implemented two unjust and likely illegal wars.

fwiw, I don't like many of them and don't understand the whole red/blue R/D thing you guys have going on - they all seem very similar from where i'm sitting.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by DominikR »

notd97843 wrote: post #131
cryoshon wrote: post #116

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condolezza_Rice#Iraq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condolezza_Rice#Role_in_authori... The facts have been on the record for years now. She's guilty, but there will never be a formal trial specifically because power will never turn on one of their own if there's nothing to gain.

Hate to break this to you, but Wikipedia is not due process. http://archive.is/vAWQa

That's usually the first thing that war criminals come up with to shield themselves from prosecution.

"They just didn't know better"

It doesn't matter if they knew or didn't, they are responsible for what they did.

If ignorance was sufficient, they'd place a donkey in the white house and wash their hands in innocence.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by JabavuAdams »

notd97843 wrote: post #131
cryoshon wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condolezza_Rice#Iraq http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condolezza_Rice#Role_in_authori... The facts have been on the record for years now. She's guilty, but there will never be a formal trial specifically because power will never turn on one of their own if there's nothing to gain.

Hate to break this to you, but Wikipedia is not due process. http://archive.is/vAWQa

I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. I don't care whether Bush et. al. lied about Iraq. I'm not here to prosecute them. I have not called them war criminals.

I am disgusted by the way the Iraq war was sold to the American public. I'm disgusted by the legitimizing of torture, both legally and culturally, and I disdain anyone who was a part of that fiasco.

As a non-American living in another country at the time it couldn't have been more apparent how different the "facts" were inside the US reality distortion bubble and outside of it. E.g. in Canada we watch both US and Canadian news shows. Watching the same events reported in both gives an incredible insight into the amount of propaganda that US citizens are subject to.

Look up Knight Ridder's reporting on the run up to the Iraq war if you want to look at some good American coverage at the time.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by supersystem »

cookiecaper wrote: post #139
etfb wrote: post #54

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She's a war criminal. That's enough reason to put up with the inconvenience of switching to a different cloud storage solution, I think.

She is? Has she been indicted by any international courts? Has she stood trial and been convicted? Or do you just have a hunch?

Your argument is irrelevant since the United States doesn't recognize the jurisdiction of the ICJ nor the ICC.

Re: Condoleezza Rice Joins Dropbox’s Board As It Names New CFO, COO

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Post by hg54yghf »

ZanyProgrammer wrote: post #166
hg54yghf wrote: post #151

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Uhh, Al Gore supported the war too and he's a partner of Kleiner Perkins and a board member of Apple, a firm that has funded several Silicon Valley companies. Will you stop using those companies too?

Al Gore wasn't part of the administration that led us to war. Rice helped enable the war, Gore was just wrong like most Americans.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

Want more?

By the way, Rice never "enabled" for the war because she couldn't vote in Congress. Similar to Al Gore.

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