This is not specific to The Netherlands, it holds for all EU member states that did not already have laws declaring downloading of copyrighted material illegal.
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not necessarily. For example, in the Netherlands one cannot be punished for being illegal here[0]. Edit: added a link for clarity. [0]: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/cabinet_drops_...
> in the Netherlands one cannot be punished for being illegal here This doesn't make sense as a sentence. Surely the Netherlands has a justice system and prisons, and surely those people in prison are there because they were convicted of doing something illegal. So it stands that you can and will be punished in the Netherlands for doing something illegal.
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#23When will the world catch up with the fact that The Netherlands is not more the liberal country it once was? The boringness of Denmark combined with the social problems of the UK, that's where it's heading.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not necessarily. For example, in the Netherlands one cannot be punished for being illegal here[0]. Edit: added a link for clarity. [0]: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/cabinet_drops_...
> in the Netherlands one cannot be punished for being illegal here This doesn't make sense as a sentence. Surely the Netherlands has a justice system and prisons, and surely those people in prison are there because they were convicted of doing something illegal. So it stands that you can and will be punished in the Netherlands for doing something illegal.
"Illegal residence is only punishable if the party involved has been declared 'undesirable'" (http://en.justitiaetpax.nl/project/aliens-detention-in-the-n...)
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not necessarily. For example, in the Netherlands one cannot be punished for being illegal here[0]. Edit: added a link for clarity. [0]: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/cabinet_drops_...
> in the Netherlands one cannot be punished for being illegal here This doesn't make sense as a sentence. Surely the Netherlands has a justice system and prisons, and surely those people in prison are there because they were convicted of doing something illegal. So it stands that you can and will be punished in the Netherlands for doing something illegal.
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#27To Clarify, banning illegal downloading sounds quite logical. Until now, downloading of copyrighted material such as movies, tv shows and music was allowed for personal use. This apparently has been overruled by an EU court. Quite interested to see what this is going to change....
I think very little will change. A little background: The Netherlands has for a long time allowed for people to make a copy of media (video, music, but not software), for personal use. This included media you'd borrow from a library, for example, or even your neighbor. To compensate, carriers (optical media, flash memory and the like) are a bit more expensive because an additional fee (of several euros; height depend…
The 'home copy' law is so you can create copies for your own use of material you bought yourself, as long as you keep it to yourself - things like transferring a CD to your mp3 player.
Similarly, it is (was?) legal to download copyrighted material to your own computer for your own use, if you already owned the material.
There is/was another loophole in the copyright law, which states it's not allowed to distribute copyrighted material. However, this law doesn't state anything about receiving and using copyrighted material; it's the distributor / uploader that's responsible for that. And since, in the case of internet piracy, that uploader is often not under Dutch jurisdiction, it kinda falls on its face.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not necessarily. For example, in the Netherlands one cannot be punished for being illegal here[0]. Edit: added a link for clarity. [0]: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/cabinet_drops_...
> in the Netherlands one cannot be punished for being illegal here This doesn't make sense as a sentence. Surely the Netherlands has a justice system and prisons, and surely those people in prison are there because they were convicted of doing something illegal. So it stands that you can and will be punished in the Netherlands for doing something illegal.
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#29This is not specific to The Netherlands, it holds for all EU member states that did not already have laws declaring downloading of copyrighted material illegal.
So essentially I'm not allowed to download a movie, but I'm allowed to load it in my browser and watch it later.
However! If I copy the file from the browser's cache to another directory, then that's again illegal. I find this puzzling, but then again, I won't be the one who complains for having a loophole (or is it?) that allows me to download any movie without fear of retribution.
[1] https://torrentfreak.com/viewing-pirated-streams-is-not-ille...