Bullies can be stopped, but it takes a village
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Re: Bullies can be stopped, but it takes a village
#2Well, I've never been bullied, but if an adult "bullied" me (as an adult) in any serious way, I would refer him to the police within a matter of minutes. This is the proper solution. Any assault on a child should be dealt with legally, and if it means moving a thug to a reform school, then all the better.
Re: Bullies can be stopped, but it takes a village
#3Well, I've never been bullied, but if an adult "bullied" me (as an adult) in any serious way, I would refer him to the police within a matter of minutes. This is the proper solution. Any assault on a child should be dealt with legally, and if it means moving a thug to a reform school, then all the better.
Right, because criminalizing the behavior of children just starting to understand social dynamics isn't a way out of proportion response.
Re: Bullies can be stopped, but it takes a village
#4It's been a while since I was in school, but I haven't been out so long that I'd be naive enough to think that a child whose parent is leading a school-wide crusade against bullying would be LESS of a target for bullies.
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#5My son put a quick halt to a bullying situation by responding in kind. Luckily the school was enlightened enough to consider the matter closed at that point.
Re: Bullies can be stopped, but it takes a village
#6It's been a while since I was in school, but I haven't been out so long that I'd be naive enough to think that a child whose parent is leading a school-wide crusade against bullying would be LESS of a target for bullies.
ISTM that if you're in a school where not-bullying is seen as the crusade of one individual parent, rather than an issue that a group of concerned parents and teachers are working on together, then the school culture already has serious problems.
Re: Bullies can be stopped, but it takes a village
#7Well, I've never been bullied, but if an adult "bullied" me (as an adult) in any serious way, I would refer him to the police within a matter of minutes. This is the proper solution. Any assault on a child should be dealt with legally, and if it means moving a thug to a reform school, then all the better.
Right, because criminalizing the behavior of children just starting to understand social dynamics isn't a way out of proportion response.
I'm far from an expert, but that was naive. You missed that part about bullies often having problems in school, didn't you?
Generally, you want to stop the bullying for one of the same reasons you want to stop rapes -- it damages the lives of many victims. But you also want to catch this, because the bully often needs help.
Edit: I don't really have an opinion on when/if the police should get involved. It probably depends on bow fscked the teacher subculture is.
Re: Bullies can be stopped, but it takes a village
#8Well, I've never been bullied, but if an adult "bullied" me (as an adult) in any serious way, I would refer him to the police within a matter of minutes. This is the proper solution. Any assault on a child should be dealt with legally, and if it means moving a thug to a reform school, then all the better.
Right, because criminalizing the behavior of children just starting to understand social dynamics isn't a way out of proportion response.
So...free pass then. Right, carry on.
You say to the thug, in no uncertain terms, "The next time you do XYZ, the consequences will be a removal from school." And, yes, have the police deal with it because they are actually equipped for such activity, unlike your typical teacher.
...and to be clear, I'm talking about instances of actual assault, and not the vast bulk of things in the category "bullying".
Re: Bullies can be stopped, but it takes a village
#9Sorry, but this article is total bullshit. Here's why:
They list four possible responses to your child being bullied, including standing up to the bully, ignoring and avoiding the bully, involving the parents of the bully, or involving the teacher/school. They state that these are all likely to be ineffective.
That said, their problem with kids standing up to bullies isn't that it's ineffective, though they paint it that way, but rather that your kid probably won't do so if you tell them to, because if they had the guts to do so, they wouldn't be targets of bullying in the first place.
Their preferred "solution" is to have a conversation with the child and brainstorm ideas and strategies, which essentially come down to: a) avoiding the bully, b) involving the teachers and school. So essentially a mix of two of the strategies they discounted at the beginning of the article.
No evidence or data is presented to back up any of the points. The author even invokes mockery of readers with evidence (albeit anecdotal) that standing up to bullies works.
Feels like we're teaching these kids victimhood and to look to someone else to get them out of a rough spot, instead of having enough confidence and self-respect to stand up for themselves.
Re: Bullies can be stopped, but it takes a village
#10Well, I've never been bullied, but if an adult "bullied" me (as an adult) in any serious way, I would refer him to the police within a matter of minutes. This is the proper solution. Any assault on a child should be dealt with legally, and if it means moving a thug to a reform school, then all the better.
Right, because criminalizing the behavior of children just starting to understand social dynamics isn't a way out of proportion response.
As someone who was bullied for the better part of his early school career (kindergarden to grade 6) i'm going to have to say that if a group of kids cant understand that gang beating someone is wrong, they deserve to be put in a special school.