I seriously wonder what else is hidden in the mess called OpenSSL. And especially how much of the bugs are known by the NSA. Something like Heartbleed would definitely make a live-injection attack feasible!
OpenSSL is written by monkeys (2009)
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Re: OpenSSL is written by monkeys (2009)
#22I'm going to assume "monkeys" is a poor translation from another language. Maybe it's supposed to say "OpenSSL is written by fuzzy hackers". It's impossible to tell without accepting a self-signed certificate I have no means of validating. The irony is delicious, much like a banana.
Within the page you didn't bother to read, presumably due to the mortal terror well known to be inflicted by presentation of a self-signed SSL certificate for a resource for which there's no reason to give a damn about identity validation in the first place, there's an expanded version of the metaphor which involves a reference to flung feces. So, no, I'm pretty sure that when the author says "monkeys", it's monkeys…
Re: OpenSSL is written by monkeys (2009)
#23I'm getting a certificate warning on Chrome 33.0.1750.152. Is there a security corollary to Muphry's law?[1] [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry's_law
Schrodingers-Murphy's-Law:
"When you look at it, it breaks!"
I joined this company in January and had to peel back all the layers of hte onion to find out where its weaknesses were, and as soon as we start looking at how a component of the system is built and how it works - it breaks. We learn a ton real fast and figure out how to make it resilient.
Yesterday in my Ops Stand-up I told my staff: We have come a long way in rebuilding the infra; I am now paranoid that a security vulnerability will be the next thing that causes an outage...
Lucky, our ELBs on AWS were all updated without issue...
Re: OpenSSL is written by monkeys (2009)
#24Is there anyone with a more current read on this issue (heartbleed aside)? The linked article is 5 years old, lots can change in 5 years.
Re: OpenSSL is written by monkeys (2009)
#25I'm getting a certificate warning on Chrome 33.0.1750.152. Is there a security corollary to Muphry's law?[1] [1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry's_law
This might be intended. Supporting SSL is better than not supporting it (well, except in situations where an OpenSSL bug could leak your server's memory, but that's a bit of a stretch " rel="nofollow">http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/#www.peereboom.us> -- but put this aside), because it's always better to encrypt traffic even in a way vulnerable to passive attacks; and some people may reasonably opt-out of the SSL CA bus…
Worse, self-signed certificates train users to freely click through certificate warnings. People running servers with self-signed certificates are actively reducing what security we have available for the web.
If we ever do get anything better than the existing CA structure, it won't do us any good if users have been trained to ignore browser security warnings anyway.
Re: OpenSSL is written by monkeys (2009)
#26Be security conscious folks. Don't click through to a site with a self-signed cert.
There is nothing wrong with self-signed certificates. If you need to trust a website that uses self-signed certificates, just make sure to verify out-of-band.
Re: OpenSSL is written by monkeys (2009)
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Within the page you didn't bother to read, presumably due to the mortal terror well known to be inflicted by presentation of a self-signed SSL certificate for a resource for which there's no reason to give a damn about identity validation in the first place, there's an expanded version of the metaphor which involves a reference to flung feces. So, no, I'm pretty sure that when the author says "monkeys", it's monkeys…
It's not mortal terror, it's declining to enable someone who uses racially-charged language to attack their fellow human beings while configuring their server in a way that anyone competent to evaluate OpenSSL's merits in the first place would know was no better than not having SSL at all, and in fact much worse, since it trains people to ignore certificate warnings.