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Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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Don't skip class. College is easy if you actually go to class and pay attention.

I disagree on this point. I skipped classes left, right and centre. I'm sure it annoyed the hell out of my lecturers, but I was spending my time doing things that turned out to be much more valuable in the long run.

For example, I did actual research! By the time I was finished with my undergraduate programme, I had enough "real" research experience to gain entry to a very good PhD programme in another country. This was coming from a small university with no particular research reputation outside of a few select areas.

So skipping classes worked for me. Just don't do it to the point where you think you know what is going on in the class, when you really don't.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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- Make sure you work on cool side projects to keep your hacking motivation up. I regret wasting all my time on stupid games online or just chatting with people. I'd much rather have a few cool projects under my sleeve. - Look for hacker-friendly internships in the summer. I really wish I had done internships instead of trying to breeze through college by taking Summer semester classes. My resumé still looks as if I'm…

You should value your time, and if you are spending too much doing an unproductive activity you should change your habits. This goes beyond college, but the college experience is often the first time you are fully in control of your schedule so it is a bit test.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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Two pieces of advice come to mind:

1. If possible, don't think about what degree you're going to get until at least your 3rd year. (This might be impossible, depending on your college -- some institutions require incoming students to declare a major promptly.) Out of dozens of students I've dealt with, I'm only aware of one case where "spend four years taking whatever courses looked interesting each semester" didn't end up with a student meeting the requirements for a degree in something -- but I've seen lots of cases where students decided what degree they wanted before starting, carefully mapped out all the courses they'd have to take, and then changed their minds later.

2. Read your textbooks before class. Not five minutes before the lecture starts -- two weeks before the semester starts. Learn the material before the instructor reaches it in class -- and then go to class and pay attention to how he/she teaches it. Aside from cases where the instructor wrote the textbook, I always found that this approach, and consequentially hearing two different perspectives on the same material, resulted in my understanding the material far better than if I only went to the lectures or only read the textbook. (Think you can't spare two weeks to read the textbooks before class? Look at it this way -- if you spend those two weeks, you'll know the material well enough that you don't need to study at all at the end of the semester.)

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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This is the advice I would have given myself at 18: Don't fret girls and relationships. I'm serious. Focus on making friends (male and female), working on interesting projects, and learning everything you can (academic and otherwise) during the next 4 years.

You may have inflated expectations of college women, assuming that intelligence and good behavior, decent tastes in men, etc. are correlated. I sure did. In fact, this is what I told myself to expect throughout high school: when I get to college, things will be more civilized. Wrong. You'll be unpleasantly surprised if you go in to most collegs with high expectations. Expect a continuation of high school behavior on the dating front. In fact, college can be worse, because you now face competition from men ages 22-26, which you didn't in high school (one should hope). This makes the market tighter.

If you meet a woman you really dig, and if you're both mature enough to pursue a relationship, go for it. I wouldn't expect this, however; it seems to happen only for about 10-20% of men at this stage of life. Don't take it personally, at all, if this aspect of life is miserable and dry for you; it's that way for most (decent) men in college.

For a man who cares more than he should about womens' approval, ages 16-21 are pretty damn miserable; it becomes fun after that, however, as the balance of power tends to switch around age 25. Most college women are chasing bad boys whose IQs are 2/3 of yours. Just focus on school and your career, rather than sacrificing time, mental health, and energy on a pursuit that will enervate and confuse you. Enjoy life and work hard instead. Then, in your mid- to late 20s, women will begin pursuing you.

(If you're a woman or gay, my advice probably still applies, but I don't have any personal experience that would apply.)

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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post #12

Don't skip class. College is easy if you actually go to class and pay attention.

I disagree on this point. I skipped classes left, right and centre. I'm sure it annoyed the hell out of my lecturers, but I was spending my time doing things that turned out to be much more valuable in the long run. For example, I did actual research! By the time I was finished with my undergraduate programme, I had enough "real" research experience to gain entry to a very good PhD programme in another country. This…

Glad it worked out for you, but in the scheme of things the amount of class time per week is really very little. Where I did my undergrad (RIT) each class met about 4-5 hours per week, and you took 4-5 classes a semester. So that means between 16-25 hours of actual class time in a week.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for freshmen entering college

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Oh, I just thought of another thing that served me well.

Find the professors and academic staff who are doing worthwhile research that interests you, and talk to them! Not in an irritating sycophantic way, just have a conversation if you genuinely want to know more.

A big adaptation going from high school to university for me was the fact that academic staff are not like teachers at school. Most of them will actually treat you like an adult and will just have a conversation with you. The clear demarcation between "teacher" and "student" kinda goes away.

This probably varies hugely between institutions, but I found that by the end of my undergraduate career, I had made really good friends with some of my lecturers. Just last week I went to a pub with one of my old professors because he was passing through London. There are three major benefits to this: 1) You'll see the other side! If you are planning a research career after grad school, it's a really good way to learn how to be a professional researcher! 2) You are more likely to get a good-quality recommendation for grad school if the person writing it knows who the hell you are. 3) Academics are generally really nice people! They became academics because they were good at something that you want to become good at. You have a shared interest - it'll probably be very rewarding for you (and hopefully for them too).

So, in short, don't view your lecturers as faceless drones who stand up in front of a class and drone on for an hour. That's a tiny part of what they do - and the rest of what they do is usually much more interesting! And finally, just don't be sycophantic about it. Nobody likes a suck-up :-p

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