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I just went to acid3 with Firefox 28 and got 100%...?
I got "100%" too, but there's multiple criteria for passing: - 100% - Animation is smooth, no stuttering - The final rendering matches the provided image
Needless to say, but I'm still using XP.
Actually, XP has a shorter life-span time here in Belgium (online banking activities are blocked for Windows XP), so people actually buy a newer PC or upgrade their PC for a newer Windows.
> in Beligium ... online banking activities are blocked for Windows XP Do all the banks agree to shut out XP on their sites? Legal requirement?
PS. They also don't support linux
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> If we really want to kill IE[6-8], we need to do something more drastic, and do so with extreme prejudice. How about we all agree upon a certain date on which we intentionally break our websites and services for IE6 users? Maybe for a blog, but I'm not telling 10%+ of my customers to piss off. If the cost of supporting them outweighs the value of their business then I won't support them any more. But I would never…
These people might be using Microsoft software, but it would be a stretch to call them Microsoft customers. When was the last time they actually coughed up any cash? Besides, this is a bed Microsoft made, so they need to lie in it. The longer people stay with XP / IE 6-8, the worse the Internet gets for everyone. M$ is the only company that can do anything about it, and it's in their best interest to, so they just ne…
Actually, XP has a shorter life-span time here in Belgium (online banking activities are blocked for Windows XP), so people actually buy a newer PC or upgrade their PC for a newer Windows.
Alternatively they could change the user agent?
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I actually dropped support for IE6 already, and IE7 is only "best effort" and is currently pretty wonky since our last redesign. We don't release updates that don't work in IE8, though. Too many users. Luckily for us it's mostly just display issues and I have no problem removing nonessential features or sections that are too hard to make work. But if it's breaking the flow of your site, it might well be more trouble…
It's sounds like you are doing what everyone else is. If the cost of support I work with some enterprise customers and they seem to be mostly IE8 or IE9. We have one dreadful customer who still wants IE6 support but we've officially dropped IE6 & IE7 support. We still do direct hacks as part of consulting for that customer.
I do mostly contract work in the U.S. for state and local governments. The RFP's (Request for Proposals) always say something about using HTML5, responsiveness and the latest web standards. And sometime shortly after (and sometimes before) project kickoff we always see that a large percentage of their employees are using IE8 and we have to support it. I make a point of describing in detail what kind of resources will…
As others have pointed out, IE6 isn't dead yet. Any person or business that is stubborn enough to use IE6 nowadays is probably also stubborn enough to keep using Windows XP for another year or ten. And I'm afraid a lot of us have been complicit in the unusually long life of this dreadful monster, as well as of its just-as-dreadful offspring, IE8. By "us" I mean everyone who has ever developed a website in the last fe…
To be fair, IE8 is not nearly as bad as IE6. Most of what IE8 is missing degrades gracefully or can be shimmed, and to be honest my biggest complaints with it are the sorry debugging tools and its JS speed, both of which were within an order of magnitude of the state of the art at the time of its release.
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Have you run metrics to see what the ROI on your IE6 support is? Do you know what percentage of your revenue these customers generate? Maybe it's 10% of your user base, but 0% of your profits. Or 50%. You won't know until you run the numbers.
You might also like to run metrics as to how those same IE6 users evangelize your service. They might be really good at word of mouth, or at recommending other enterprise-level customers in via the golf course. Or - more realistically - you could actually consider 10% of your customers a large, valuable chunk whatever the ROI and accommodate them. Your choice.