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Actually, XP has a shorter life-span time here in Belgium (online banking activities are blocked for Windows XP), so people actually buy a newer PC or upgrade their PC for a newer Windows.
Do all the banks agree to shut out XP on their sites? Legal requirement?
As others have pointed out, IE6 isn't dead yet. Any person or business that is stubborn enough to use IE6 nowadays is probably also stubborn enough to keep using Windows XP for another year or ten. And I'm afraid a lot of us have been complicit in the unusually long life of this dreadful monster, as well as of its just-as-dreadful offspring, IE8. By "us" I mean everyone who has ever developed a website in the last fe…
IE6 will keep living in the enterprise space, and many parts of the world. I hate it but it's really never going away.
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A large part of the reason why IE6 even works anywhere outside of corporate intranets in 2014 is that we, web developers, have put in countless hours of painful and completely unnecessary work to make it work.
This is the job you signed up for. It's a site easier situation now than 15 years ago. You think supporting browsers is hard now? (I can't believe I get to be the crotchety old man in this thread). Perhaps you don't remember the NN4 vs IE4 days. NN4 didn't even have a DIV tag, it had a LAYER tag, and IE4 didn't have the LAYER tag, it had DIV. The only way to support both with all of the DHTML junk people wanted (like…
Hopefully, one day I will be the crotchety old man complaining about how the new kids never had to worry about IE8 issues.
As others have pointed out, IE6 isn't dead yet. Any person or business that is stubborn enough to use IE6 nowadays is probably also stubborn enough to keep using Windows XP for another year or ten. And I'm afraid a lot of us have been complicit in the unusually long life of this dreadful monster, as well as of its just-as-dreadful offspring, IE8. By "us" I mean everyone who has ever developed a website in the last fe…
To be fair, IE8 is not nearly as bad as IE6. Most of what IE8 is missing degrades gracefully or can be shimmed, and to be honest my biggest complaints with it are the sorry debugging tools and its JS speed, both of which were within an order of magnitude of the state of the art at the time of its release.
As others have pointed out, IE6 isn't dead yet. Any person or business that is stubborn enough to use IE6 nowadays is probably also stubborn enough to keep using Windows XP for another year or ten. And I'm afraid a lot of us have been complicit in the unusually long life of this dreadful monster, as well as of its just-as-dreadful offspring, IE8. By "us" I mean everyone who has ever developed a website in the last fe…
> we need to set fire to their pants.
I remember going to a friend's house for dinner. He had spent all day upgrading the version of Linux on his laptop, and wrangling with a large number of thorny technical issues. After hours, he boasted to me of his success.
"Look! When you type ls it now displays the results in color!"
That was the best he had to show for a whole day of kludging around. He seemed to feel he had done something virtuous -- the equivalent of walking ten miles to school, perhaps, uphill both ways, in the snow. It seemed to me that he had merely wasted his time.
Damn me as lazy if you wish.
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> If we really want to kill IE[6-8], we need to do something more drastic, and do so with extreme prejudice. How about we all agree upon a certain date on which we intentionally break our websites and services for IE6 users? Maybe for a blog, but I'm not telling 10%+ of my customers to piss off. If the cost of supporting them outweighs the value of their business then I won't support them any more. But I would never…
Just curious, any idea why you have so many users (10%) still on IE8 or under? I just checked my usage, and I only have 8% using IE period -- all versions. Of those, only 8% are on IE8 or under -- which is only 0.6% of all users.
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I just went to acid3 with Firefox 28 and got 100%...?
I got "100%" too, but there's multiple criteria for passing: - 100% - Animation is smooth, no stuttering - The final rendering matches the provided image
As others have pointed out, IE6 isn't dead yet. Any person or business that is stubborn enough to use IE6 nowadays is probably also stubborn enough to keep using Windows XP for another year or ten. And I'm afraid a lot of us have been complicit in the unusually long life of this dreadful monster, as well as of its just-as-dreadful offspring, IE8. By "us" I mean everyone who has ever developed a website in the last fe…