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Re: IE6 is dead

#101

Post by johnward »

eli wrote: post #90
atonse wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be curious to know what that IE6 support involves nowadays. There's a difference between having certain simpler layouts (although that probably affects conversion too), and IE6 actually messing up a purchase flow on an e-commerce site.

I actually dropped support for IE6 already, and IE7 is only "best effort" and is currently pretty wonky since our last redesign. We don't release updates that don't work in IE8, though. Too many users. Luckily for us it's mostly just display issues and I have no problem removing nonessential features or sections that are too hard to make work. But if it's breaking the flow of your site, it might well be more trouble…

It's sounds like you are doing what everyone else is. If the cost of support I work with some enterprise customers and they seem to be mostly IE8 or IE9. We have one dreadful customer who still wants IE6 support but we've officially dropped IE6 & IE7 support. We still do direct hacks as part of consulting for that customer.

Re: IE6 is dead

#102

Post by talmand »

awda wrote: post #80

Huh, I just went to the acid3 test in Firefox 28 and it failed . (Animation wasn't smooth, final rendering did not match expected image at all.) Is this surprising? I thought acid3 was a fairly old test.

I ran the acid3 test on my Firefox 28 on OS X and it passed 100/100.

Besides, the acid tests are more a worse case scenario and may not be indicative of real-world cases.

Re: IE6 is dead

#103

Post by voidlogic »

awda wrote: post #80

Huh, I just went to the acid3 test in Firefox 28 and it failed . (Animation wasn't smooth, final rendering did not match expected image at all.) Is this surprising? I thought acid3 was a fairly old test.

I just went to acid3 with Firefox 28 and got 100%...?

Re: IE6 is dead

#105

Post by awda »

voidlogic wrote: post #103
awda wrote: post #80

Huh, I just went to the acid3 test in Firefox 28 and it failed . (Animation wasn't smooth, final rendering did not match expected image at all.) Is this surprising? I thought acid3 was a fairly old test.

I just went to acid3 with Firefox 28 and got 100%...?

I got "100%" too, but there's multiple criteria for passing:

   - 100%
   - Animation is smooth, no stuttering
   - The final rendering matches the provided image

Re: IE6 is dead

#106

Post by eli »

johnward wrote: post #101
eli wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually dropped support for IE6 already, and IE7 is only "best effort" and is currently pretty wonky since our last redesign. We don't release updates that don't work in IE8, though. Too many users. Luckily for us it's mostly just display issues and I have no problem removing nonessential features or sections that are too hard to make work. But if it's breaking the flow of your site, it might well be more trouble…

It's sounds like you are doing what everyone else is. If the cost of support I work with some enterprise customers and they seem to be mostly IE8 or IE9. We have one dreadful customer who still wants IE6 support but we've officially dropped IE6 & IE7 support. We still do direct hacks as part of consulting for that customer.

Sure, blindly supporting everything regardless of cost is just as foolish as intentionally breaking support to punish old IE users (IMHO).

A disproportionate number of our most important users are running IE8. I don't know if it's because they're still on XP (and thus can't upgrade past 8) or some other reason.

I'm not an expert, but I think it's so much that IE9 auto-updates as Win7+ does a much better job of pushing updates that include new browsers.

Re: IE6 is dead

#107

Post by cbr »

bigiain wrote: post #51
hesselink wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a protocol relative link. So if the page is served over http, it'll be an http link, and if the page is served over https, it'll be an https link. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_relative_URL#Protocol-...

And it breaks unexpectedly (and sometimes hilariously) when people use it in html email, it turns into a file:// "link".

You can't have external css or js in an html email. [1] Are you talking about links? Or image tags?

[1] Well you can, but no one will fetch them.

Re: IE6 is dead

#108

Post by apaprocki »

olegkikin wrote: post #23

Just checked the analytics on a non-IT website: IE represents 10.45% Out of that: IE6 .28% IE7 2.03% IE8 19.81% IE9 16.57% IE10 16.15% IE11 45.13%

Here's bloomberg.com:

IE represents 25.00%

    IE6    0.11%
    IE7    3.20%
    IE8   34.39%
    IE9   32.94%
    IE10  16.48%
    IE11  12.87%

Re: IE6 is dead

#109

Post by jader201 »

eli wrote: post #45
kijin wrote: post #40

As others have pointed out, IE6 isn't dead yet. Any person or business that is stubborn enough to use IE6 nowadays is probably also stubborn enough to keep using Windows XP for another year or ten. And I'm afraid a lot of us have been complicit in the unusually long life of this dreadful monster, as well as of its just-as-dreadful offspring, IE8. By "us" I mean everyone who has ever developed a website in the last fe…

> If we really want to kill IE[6-8], we need to do something more drastic, and do so with extreme prejudice. How about we all agree upon a certain date on which we intentionally break our websites and services for IE6 users? Maybe for a blog, but I'm not telling 10%+ of my customers to piss off. If the cost of supporting them outweighs the value of their business then I won't support them any more. But I would never…

Just curious, any idea why you have so many users (10%) still on IE8 or under?

I just checked my usage, and I only have 8% using IE period -- all versions. Of those, only 8% are on IE8 or under -- which is only 0.6% of all users.

Re: IE6 is dead

#110

Post by MCarusi »

I really can't say I'll be in mourning over this. I've lost count of how many times I've had to convince clients to upgrade even to IE7 because IE6 isn't compatible with some aspects of WordPress.
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