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Navy tests rail gun

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Re: Navy tests rail gun

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I have been hearing about rail guns for years - so its a little surprising to me that the projectiles still cost 25k and they don't expect them to be on ships till the end of the decade.

>> $25,000 for a railgun projectile versus $500,000 to $1.5 million for a missile

It's a lot cheaper than the alternatives.

Re: Navy tests rail gun

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I can't imagine the amount of electricity (even just for a split second) it would take to pull this off.

You don't need to imagine, we can compute it!

Mach 7 is 2382 m/s. 23 pounds is 10.4 kg.

Since k=mv^2: (1/2) * (10.4 kg) * (2382 m/s)^2 = 29504404 Joules.

That's 29.5 MJ, which is 29.5 megawatt-seconds. So it could mean 29.5 megawatts for one second, except of course the rail time is much less than one second. But who cares, let's convert to household units! 29500 kilowatt-seconds is 8.2 kWh. At an average price of US$0.13/kWh, that comes to just $1 worth of electricity to fire a $25000 projectile.

Oh, yeah, the losses. Those are probably 90% or so, so let's say $10. And mark it up a factor of ten because the electricity is on a boat, so $100, and a factor of 50 because it's a weapons system. So ballpark $5000 in electricity TCO to fire the $25000 projectile.

Re: Navy tests rail gun

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This is the type of ship that it will be mounted on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearhead-class_Joint_High_Spee... I always assumed it would be put on a Littoral class ship. I'm guessing that the ship is going to be dedicated to this weapon and that's why it wasn't put on a carrier or LCS for testing. How is it going to be powered? Will it have it's own dedicated nuclear reactor and a huge array of capacitors? I wo…

They pretty clearly say that its being put on the Spearhead for testing because it has the space for it. And given all the problems they're having on the LCSs, I think the last they want to do is is to do testing of experimental weapons on it.

As for power, the LM2500 in the Aegis Destroyers put out 20MW. They have 4 of them. This gun puts out 32MJ of muzzle velocity. Assuming 10% efficiency, and you're at 320MJ per shot. If you ran a dedicated LM2500 per gun, that'll get you a shot every 16 seconds.

Re: Navy tests rail gun

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post #2

I have been hearing about rail guns for years - so its a little surprising to me that the projectiles still cost 25k and they don't expect them to be on ships till the end of the decade.

I'm quite sure that the 25k price could come down, if they were being manufactured in bulk. I believe it's mostly an appropriately shaped lump of metal..?

Re: Navy tests rail gun

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post #7

I can't imagine the amount of electricity (even just for a split second) it would take to pull this off.

In the ideal case, the math is pretty simple. The kinetic energy in 1/2MV^2 . (integral from 0 to mach 7) so if you know the weight of the missile...

First sentence of the article: "The U.S. Navy is planning sea trials for a weapon that can fire a low-cost, 23-pound (10-kg) projectile"

Re: Navy tests rail gun

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post #6

This is the type of ship that it will be mounted on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearhead-class_Joint_High_Spee... I always assumed it would be put on a Littoral class ship. I'm guessing that the ship is going to be dedicated to this weapon and that's why it wasn't put on a carrier or LCS for testing. How is it going to be powered? Will it have it's own dedicated nuclear reactor and a huge array of capacitors? I wo…

The LCS doesn't have the room, nor the power output to use a railgun. The gun "barrel" doesn't take up much room compared to a normal 5" system, but it's the power supply that makes it unsuitable for anything short of a Burke class DDG.

Re: Navy tests rail gun

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post #6

This is the type of ship that it will be mounted on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearhead-class_Joint_High_Spee... I always assumed it would be put on a Littoral class ship. I'm guessing that the ship is going to be dedicated to this weapon and that's why it wasn't put on a carrier or LCS for testing. How is it going to be powered? Will it have it's own dedicated nuclear reactor and a huge array of capacitors? I wo…

It sounds like it will be tested on the Spearhead cargo platform.

I assume as testing progresses, it will end up on other types of ship.

Re: Navy tests rail gun

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post #2

I have been hearing about rail guns for years - so its a little surprising to me that the projectiles still cost 25k and they don't expect them to be on ships till the end of the decade.

>> $25,000 for a railgun projectile versus $500,000 to $1.5 million for a missile It's a lot cheaper than the alternatives.

Exactly. For what it does, and what is used today to do it, it's VERY cheap.
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