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US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by anakha »

emdowling wrote: post #43

Good to note that this does not include the E3 visa available exclusively to Australians. Australia never uses its full allocation of 10,000 E3's each year and they are incredibly easy to get. the candidate simply needs a Bachelor's degree or higher as well as a job offer. If approved, their spouse is also instantly eligible for a E3 visa entitling them to work too. Generally, it takes 2-4 weeks to get one from start…

Are you aware of the details of the free trade agreements Australia signed with the US? We paid our dues to the US, has to be some reciprocity.

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Post by turar »

JamesArgo wrote: post #69
ebiester wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are only a few really good places to live for an educated worker. Japan, Australia, Western and Northern Europe, Canada, and the US. I will operationalize "good" as "an intelligent worker can make an exceptional living relative to their country of origin." Each of these places only take a limited amount of immigrants each year. Some are more difficult based on the national language -- learning Danish isn't more…

Canada will take anyone with an engineering degree.

Nope. Unless anyone is someone who has 1 year experience (not just a degree) in one of just 24 allowed occupations, AND can get an application before a small cap is reached. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/complete-appl...

Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by jpatokal »

tibbon wrote: post #129
thmcmahon wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Australia has an uncapped temporary migration program for skilled workers ( http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/457.aspx ), the situation described in this article can not happen in Australia. On a permanent level, Australia has a permanent program of around 180,000 places a year in a country with only 22 million people.

Given that, why aren't more people trying to get to Australia to work? Aside from spiders (a personal fear of mine) it seems to be a pretty awesome place.

Lots of people are trying, but it's not that easy. You can't get a 457 temporary working visa without an Australian company willing to sponsor you. The hurdles for skilled migration are fairly high (and getting higher all the time) and the process takes several years.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/

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Post by isb »

refurb wrote: post #121
potatolicious wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The H-1B becomes a whole lot more restrictive the moment you apply for a green card, since your transferability just vanished. This is less of a problem for people from non-Indian and non-Chinese backgrounds, since the wait time is reasonably short. The priority dates for Indians and Chinese though make it such that once your green card is started you're stuck for literally years.

Once you've applied for a green card and the PERM and I-140 has been approved and your I-485 has been pending for 180 days, you do have portability. You can leave your current employer, but you must find another position that is substantially similar. Labor certification and I-140 processing used to be painfully slow. I waited 3.5 years just for my labor certification. However, the new PERM process is much quicker, s…

You can't file for an i-485 if your date is not current which is the case for folks from India/China. So there is no true portability.

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Post by jacques_chester »

sien wrote: post #71
tokenadult wrote: post #26

What is that makes the United States such an attractive place to immigrate to for people whose skill sets could take them almost anywhere in the world? (In other words, why is that successive sessions of Congress can basically count on lots of people desiring to live in the United States, thus setting up an environment in which immigration regulation is restrictive rather than open?) (I'm genuinely curious about this…

Technically the title is a little misleading. The Australian E3 visa has not been filled. If you need skilled engineers think of seeing if you can recruit some Australians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-3_visa

The E3 isn't equivalent to an H1B. It has many advangtages, but there's no path to permanent residency.

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Post by jpatokal »

EduardoBautista wrote: post #155
ebiester wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are only a few really good places to live for an educated worker. Japan, Australia, Western and Northern Europe, Canada, and the US. I will operationalize "good" as "an intelligent worker can make an exceptional living relative to their country of origin." Each of these places only take a limited amount of immigrants each year. Some are more difficult based on the national language -- learning Danish isn't more…

If I recall correctly, almost all the nordic countries accept English to fulfill their language requirements.

For temporary workers, sure, But if you want citizenship, better start honing up your Finnish conjugation.

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Post by serge2k »

tokenadult wrote: post #26

What is that makes the United States such an attractive place to immigrate to for people whose skill sets could take them almost anywhere in the world? (In other words, why is that successive sessions of Congress can basically count on lots of people desiring to live in the United States, thus setting up an environment in which immigration regulation is restrictive rather than open?) (I'm genuinely curious about this…

Well I moved to Seattle from BC because i got offered more money with lower taxes and more interesting job.

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Post by ericd »

throwaway7808 wrote: post #100
ericd wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From an economic competitiveness aspect, as a country, we should be trying to get as many IIT graduates to be American citizens as we can.

And from an economic competitiveness aspect, as a world?

National laws are usually tailored to benefit that nation. Do you disagree that countries compete with each other?

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Post by bdavisx »

derefr wrote: post #11
lmg643 wrote: post #3

i recently saw a table of firms awarded these visas. it seemed nuts to me that a large proportion of the visas go to firms whose primary business line is outsourcing in one form or another. i typically think of visas as fulfilling unmet hiring needs for domestic US firms - like Facebook! - but instead see they are largely squirreled away by firms whose primary function is overseas labor cost arbitrage. I would be int…

The visas are helping american firms meet their hiring needs... through the outsourcing firms. The people who want to hire don't want to be burdened with the paperwork of actually keeping track of work-visa'ed employees; the outsourcing firms are willing to take that burden on for them. Everyone wins.

The "real" (as opposed to outsourcing/staffing) companies that want a visa for an employee and don't get one because of the cap aren't winning. Plus I'm guessing the pay / benefits would generally be better at many of those places as well.

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Post by serge2k »

jrockway wrote: post #33

Does it matter? Canada is much more liberal about giving out work visas, so US companies just open offices in Canada and hire the employees there. Meanwhile, Canadians can come work in the US under the TN status, which has no quotas. All the US gets is less tax revenue.

No quotas, but some disadvantages too.
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