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US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by avmich »

refurb wrote: post #108
avmich wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "take"? Canadian employers aren't very familiar with a concept of working visa in practice - they prefer you to first have a permanent residence, then they can talk about hiring you. To get permanent residence, you have to pass the process, which is many months long. Am I substantially missing something?

I think the gp is referring to Canada's point system. As long as you have enough points, then you will be admitted into Canada.

But how long is the wait?

In US, if - and that's a big if - you're lucky enough to win H-1b early April, you may start working early October. Is there anything as fast with Canada? Without employer agreeing to hire you even though you don't have a working visa - i.e., you have to apply for one?

Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by total »

sien wrote: post #71
tokenadult wrote: post #26

What is that makes the United States such an attractive place to immigrate to for people whose skill sets could take them almost anywhere in the world? (In other words, why is that successive sessions of Congress can basically count on lots of people desiring to live in the United States, thus setting up an environment in which immigration regulation is restrictive rather than open?) (I'm genuinely curious about this…

Technically the title is a little misleading. The Australian E3 visa has not been filled. If you need skilled engineers think of seeing if you can recruit some Australians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-3_visa

The title certainly is misleading, but a read of the short article clears that up pretty quickly considering they mention H-1B visas by name.

Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by frandroid »

joering2 wrote: post #130
ebiester wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are only a few really good places to live for an educated worker. Japan, Australia, Western and Northern Europe, Canada, and the US. I will operationalize "good" as "an intelligent worker can make an exceptional living relative to their country of origin." Each of these places only take a limited amount of immigrants each year. Some are more difficult based on the national language -- learning Danish isn't more…

> There are only a few really good places to live for an educated worker. Japan, Australia, Western and Northern Europe, Canada, and the US. You need to pull your eyes out of your ass. The countries you mention are far from being superior; perhaps "good enough", but frankly nothing too fancy. You need to visit Hong Kong or Singapore to see how highly qualified immigrants live there like kings. Japan has serious envir…

I don't think it's inappropriate language, but I find your statement that the Queen can suspend Canadian parliament any time she wants is totally incorrect. The case you link to is an exceptional one that had no jurisprudence, and was most likely decided by the Queen's representative, not the Queen herself, which is not an insignificant difference. This was the aftermath of an election with a minority government result, which almost never happens in our First Past the Post system. Your misrepresentation of this case is more offensive to my eyes than your language. My HN values intellectual correctness over proper language. :)

Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by buzaga41 »

ebiester wrote: post #48
tokenadult wrote: post #26

What is that makes the United States such an attractive place to immigrate to for people whose skill sets could take them almost anywhere in the world? (In other words, why is that successive sessions of Congress can basically count on lots of people desiring to live in the United States, thus setting up an environment in which immigration regulation is restrictive rather than open?) (I'm genuinely curious about this…

There are only a few really good places to live for an educated worker. Japan, Australia, Western and Northern Europe, Canada, and the US. I will operationalize "good" as "an intelligent worker can make an exceptional living relative to their country of origin." Each of these places only take a limited amount of immigrants each year. Some are more difficult based on the national language -- learning Danish isn't more…

Is `educated worker` some kind of euphemism for genius/top of the game or something? I am an educated worker, and probably everyone else around here.. Seems like a bit-too-broad statement(I for one am not currently interested in immigrating not one bit)

Anyway, I always thought the best would want to move to the US because it's there's top work, e.g.: there's no Tesla or SpaceX elsewhere and a top engineer would probably want to be doing this kind of work... Same with scientists that are working on ambitious research. But maybe I'm thinking about H1b as more of `top of the top, get your asses here` and it's more like `ye you're skilled enough you can try`, dunno.

Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by doktrin »

joering2 wrote: post #130
ebiester wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are only a few really good places to live for an educated worker. Japan, Australia, Western and Northern Europe, Canada, and the US. I will operationalize "good" as "an intelligent worker can make an exceptional living relative to their country of origin." Each of these places only take a limited amount of immigrants each year. Some are more difficult based on the national language -- learning Danish isn't more…

> There are only a few really good places to live for an educated worker. Japan, Australia, Western and Northern Europe, Canada, and the US. You need to pull your eyes out of your ass. The countries you mention are far from being superior; perhaps "good enough", but frankly nothing too fancy. You need to visit Hong Kong or Singapore to see how highly qualified immigrants live there like kings. Japan has serious envir…

This is a silly and hypocritical critique. All countries have their flaws, but you're really not being fair or objective.

You lambast Japan for a lack of government transparency just as you finish extolling the virtues of Hong Kong and Singapore. You also conveniently fail to mention the salary required to live "like a king" in either of those two locations. Singapore ain't cheap. In fact, it's the world's most expensive city by several measures [1].

H1-B is pretty broad, and most applicants are certainly not eligible for mid six figure salaries in the finance hubs of Asia. "Highly qualified" for the purposes of this discussion does _not_ necessarily mean rolling in the dough.

Lastly and most comically : Canada's parliament being desolved by the Queen? That's patently absurd.

[1] http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26412821

Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by curiousDog »

tokenadult wrote: post #26

What is that makes the United States such an attractive place to immigrate to for people whose skill sets could take them almost anywhere in the world? (In other words, why is that successive sessions of Congress can basically count on lots of people desiring to live in the United States, thus setting up an environment in which immigration regulation is restrictive rather than open?) (I'm genuinely curious about this…

To me it's the universities and the already existing multi-culturalism. Everyone here is an immigrant in some way.

Also, multi-culturalism seems to be growing organically here in the U.S rather than being shoved down people's throats like in Europe. This leads to fewer instances of racism and a more accepting climate where every one has some degree of mutual respect. I don't think that's the case in Western Europe where from what I hear, refugees are being brought in huge numbers angering the local population.

Last year, i visited Switzerland and Austria and was called nigger multiple times by random passers on bicycles whilst walking (and I'm not even black and pretty fair for an Indian guy). Fuck that shit.

Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by tn13 »

I am in USA on H1B.

A lot of American problems seem to be around the thinking that there is some kind "fixed" number of jobs, misery, poverty, disease etc.

A lot of welfare systems here seems to assume that there is a fixed number of single mothers, disabled etc. without acknowledging the fact that the more incentives you give to them more people will try to get into that category. For example more dole you give to disabled I would assume more people would try to get themselves into disabled bucket than in healthy.

Similarly the H1B cap seems to have an assumption that there are some fixed number of STEM jobs out there and if Indians fill it up, somehow the Americans will not get it. I would assume a higher concentration of Engineers in USA would only lead to more innovation, more engineers trying to earn more money by being far more creative and so on.

In India a typical outsourcing giant pays somewhere between $5K to $10k per year to new engineers. The only way I could break such low pay was by getting a master degree, being an excellent coder and joining a more tech focused company in Silicon Valley. After reaching Silicon Valley I realized the tech giant I was working for did not pay me enough. So I changed the job and joined a start-up which eventually did far well making me richer.

Also the Democrats which beat their chest in the name of poor are actually those who treat poor the way a Dog treats a lampost. The lampost helps the Dog navigates but only after it is soaked in his pee.

More engineers would mean cheaper engineering services which means more money saved for rest of the non-engineering Americans which a overwhelmingly high population. By putting an artificial cap on H1B American government is forcing the poor American citizens shell out more money.

Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by zpk »

The same company that has a press release that they do not wage collude:

"Not everybody took part in the no-hire agreement: last week, Facebook's Sheryl Sandberg said the social network rebuffed Google's approaches."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/30/tech_giants_fail_to_...

Is the same guy pushing for visas to drive down wages:

"Fwd.us, a group founded in part by Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg, has pushed for immigration reform. Joe Green, another Fwd.us founder, lambasted current law regarding the cap structure of high-skill visas in an email to TechCrunch, calling the current set of regulations “dysfunctional.” "

I guess being a prick knows no bounds.

Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by benjamincburns »

tibbon wrote: post #129
thmcmahon wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Australia has an uncapped temporary migration program for skilled workers ( http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/457.aspx ), the situation described in this article can not happen in Australia. On a permanent level, Australia has a permanent program of around 180,000 places a year in a country with only 22 million people.

Given that, why aren't more people trying to get to Australia to work? Aside from spiders (a personal fear of mine) it seems to be a pretty awesome place.

Lots of people are moving to Australia.

However, one big deterrent is proximity to the rest of the world. If you want to travel home to visit family, or due to an emergency - it's going to cost a lot of money and time.

Because of the distance, the logistics of physically moving there are also that much more difficult.

Then there are the mainstays - cost of living in/around major cities is quite high (though in the ICT sector earning potential is quite good), there are lots of scary critters, etc.

Re: US burns through all high-skill visas for 2015 in less than a week

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Post by Mikeb85 »

avmich wrote: post #137
Mikeb85 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Skilled worker visas which don't require employer sponsorship, and are open ended.

Hmm, http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/perm/skilled-... lists processing times in months. Options with many months of wait are known, but are there anything faster? Say, 90 days?

Not really. To get sponsored by an employer you need a labour market opinion and there are certain conditions (like no Canadian candidates applying for said position during a certain time period).
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