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Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

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Re: Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

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Post by WalterBright »

sbierwagen wrote: post #12
johnwyles wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also keep in mind that Formula E debuts this year; it will be the sport we all eventually follow (not sure how I feel about the passing cars sounding more like aircraft than cars): http://www.fiaformulae.com/

Who cares about the sound? I'm tired of seeing blog comments on Jalopnik complaining about it. Of the many dumb excuses car nuts use to whine about electric cars, "they sound different!" is by far the worst.

I have an old muscle car with a built V8. The crackling sound of the engine start, and the sound it makes when it 'digs in' under acceleration, is viscerally thrilling.

The smell of a hot engine, and the shaking of the car also add a lot of fun.

One of the best movie montages ever is the opening sequence of the movie "Grand Prix" where they start the engines and warm em up.

In "Rush" they ruined the movie by having a rock soundtrack laid over the sounds of the cars.

"Bullitt"s car chase has never been equaled because the director had the guts to let the V8s and various car noises be the whole soundtrack. The music overlay stops when the chase starts, the complete opposite of every other movie.

Re: Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

#32

Post by stevenwei »

enko wrote: post #21
stevenwei wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aw, a spoiler warning would have been appreciated there.

The article title might have given it away ...

Mercedes has been dominant the past two races as well so it's not necessarily a spoiler to say they have been owning the season. On the other hand today's race ended a few hours ago and I didn't expect to run into race results on HN of all places. Oh well.

Re: Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

#33

Post by brm »

antr wrote: post #23
enko wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there are no fights to watch at the top Were we watching the same race? The last 11 laps were an epic battle between Rosberg and Hamilton, and the mob contending for points was no less thrilling. I thought it was a great race, at least at the end. And have you already forgotten 2013? Red Bull won every single race in the second half of the season. Yeah, Mercedes is on top, for now, it's not like a constructor has n…

Please read my entire comment: > (It's true that the Hamilton-Rosberg fight in Bahrain was also fun to watch) My point is: this year looks like the last years' championships with RBR... same dog, different collar.

Is it though? We haven't even arrived in Monaco yet, anything could happen and the drama has been amazing to watch so far. Take tonight for example... Vetel being instructed to let Ricciardo pass and complying, Force India going 3/5, Hamilton and Rosberg dueling, Massa(??) blitzing the field on the start. The president of Ferrari walking out in disgust. That horrendous flip...

This doesn't even get into new arrivals like Magnussen and his amazing debut. This season is far from over and getting more interesting by the day.

Re: Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

#34

Post by exDM69 »

What is interesting is that Mercedes came up with the split turbocharger only in the first race - in preseason winter testing, they were running a more traditional turbo charger.

Now that we've seen the split turbocharger with the turbine at the back, the compressor at the front and the motor-generator unit in between on top of the engine block it seems all too obvious. But coming up with this is ingenious, and making it work on such short notice is quite a feat of engineering.

I can't wait to have this in my road car, 40% fuel saving with only a little drop in performance.

Re: Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

#35

Post by ukdm »

Today's race was the first time we got to see just how fast the Mercedes is on low fuel with new tires. This innovation is worth 2 seconds per lap, which is massive in this sport. The championship is theirs to lose this year. Teams don't make up such a time gap over a season, and Mercedes won't stop developing.

Re: Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

#36

Post by encoderer »

exDM69 wrote: post #34

What is interesting is that Mercedes came up with the split turbocharger only in the first race - in preseason winter testing, they were running a more traditional turbo charger. Now that we've seen the split turbocharger with the turbine at the back, the compressor at the front and the motor-generator unit in between on top of the engine block it seems all too obvious. But coming up with this is ingenious, and makin…

Didn't the article say they were working on this for 2 years?

Re: Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

#37

Post by ericcumbee »

antr wrote: post #11
ntkachov wrote: post #7

I'm loving the direction F1 is going. Sure, for the hardcore fans, the noise just isn't the same, and the cars aren't going as fast anymore, but I love that they are trying to force the manufacturers to improve their lower spec engines. Maybe the next rule change we'll have CVT as a requirement instead of a gear box.

As an F1 fan, it isn't the noise, and speed that are making this championship "boring". It's the fact that Mercedes is so superior that you really have to ignore them in order to enjoy the "real" racing / fights behind them. (It's true that the Hamilton-Rosberg fight in Bahrain was also fun to watch) Mercedes' dominance is ridiculous - and I don't want to take engineering credits away, but there are no fights to watc…

So what your saying is you want Balance of Performance adjustments?

Re: Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

#38

Post by ericcumbee »

johnwyles wrote: post #10
ntkachov wrote: post #7

I'm loving the direction F1 is going. Sure, for the hardcore fans, the noise just isn't the same, and the cars aren't going as fast anymore, but I love that they are trying to force the manufacturers to improve their lower spec engines. Maybe the next rule change we'll have CVT as a requirement instead of a gear box.

Also keep in mind that Formula E debuts this year; it will be the sport we all eventually follow (not sure how I feel about the passing cars sounding more like aircraft than cars): http://www.fiaformulae.com/

Formula E is only going to be around along enough to prove the concept is viable. Once it is, its going to either be relegated to a feeder series, or the ideas merged into formula one.

Re: Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

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Post by exDM69 »

encoderer wrote: post #36
exDM69 wrote: post #34

What is interesting is that Mercedes came up with the split turbocharger only in the first race - in preseason winter testing, they were running a more traditional turbo charger. Now that we've seen the split turbocharger with the turbine at the back, the compressor at the front and the motor-generator unit in between on top of the engine block it seems all too obvious. But coming up with this is ingenious, and makin…

Didn't the article say they were working on this for 2 years?

Yes, the article did say that and I found it a bit odd. While they probably have been working on the power unit for two years, the split turbocharger was first seen at the first race.

Of course, my knowledge is based on media reports, it is possible that none of the media have seen it in Jerez and Bahrain tests but it was first reported by Craig Scarborough during the Australian GP weekend.

Re: Mercedes Is Owning This Formula 1 Season

#40

Post by jpkeisala »

enko wrote: post #20
antr wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an F1 fan, it isn't the noise, and speed that are making this championship "boring". It's the fact that Mercedes is so superior that you really have to ignore them in order to enjoy the "real" racing / fights behind them. (It's true that the Hamilton-Rosberg fight in Bahrain was also fun to watch) Mercedes' dominance is ridiculous - and I don't want to take engineering credits away, but there are no fights to watc…

> there are no fights to watch at the top Were we watching the same race? The last 11 laps were an epic battle between Rosberg and Hamilton, and the mob contending for points was no less thrilling. I thought it was a great race, at least at the end. And have you already forgotten 2013? Red Bull won every single race in the second half of the season. Yeah, Mercedes is on top, for now, it's not like a constructor has n…

I don't think RB was nowhere near where Mercedes is this year. They are unbeatable like Brawn GP was on 2008. Others wont catch them this year. But otherwise very interesting season.
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