The collision rate seems pretty high and to someone with a bit of resources (say 500 ips) to go through the ids would take 3~ days at 1 request per second. The party would have a list of of flickr users / email combinations. The best way to fix this if they want to have the urls work for some backward compatible reason is probably severe rate limiting after x requests if they do not want to expire these requests -- r…
Flickr: Invitations disclosure (resend feature)
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#52Actually the Yahoo! employee (schofield?) in the above link is right and you cannot blame him for this - it is because Yahoo! really think first name + last name + email are not private information AFAIK, not particularly to Flickr, there are multiple ways to retrieve these information...
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#53Re: Flickr: Invitations disclosure (resend feature)
#54Actually the Yahoo! employee (schofield?) in the above link is right and you cannot blame him for this - it is because Yahoo! really think first name + last name + email are not private information AFAIK, not particularly to Flickr, there are multiple ways to retrieve these information...
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#55The response to this bug is atrocious and shameful. The developer that responded to this did the same as putting on a blindfold and declaring that because they could no longer see the bug, it must not exist. Right from the get-go, schofield showed incompetence when they declared they couldn't reproduce the bug, even though it was explained to them plainly and thoroughly! How do these inept developers get hired?
Furthermore, Yahoo can not unilaterally choose to define what is "sensitive". In the EU, many countries implementation of the Data Protection Directive considers e-mail addresses personally identifiable information, which makes it subject to the relevant laws. Given that Yahoo operates in a number of European countries, and have offices and legal entities in many of them, this potentially means they are legally liabl…
Re: Flickr: Invitations disclosure (resend feature)
#56The collision rate seems pretty high and to someone with a bit of resources (say 500 ips) to go through the ids would take 3~ days at 1 request per second. The party would have a list of of flickr users / email combinations. The best way to fix this if they want to have the urls work for some backward compatible reason is probably severe rate limiting after x requests if they do not want to expire these requests -- r…
This is not a collision rate. Collision is when two plain text gives the same hash.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
UUIDs (depending on the version) could be easier to guess than a hash or random string. See http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4122.txt --> 6. Security Considerations -- Do not assume that UUIDs are hard to guess; they should not be used as security capabilities (identifiers whose mere possession grants access), for example.
Under no circumstances are RFC-compliant UUIDs of any version as secure as a properly-generated 128-bit (or more) key. Even version 4 and 5 UUIDs necessarily have non-random bits. Furthermore, although the RFC makes a half-hearted attempt to nudge you in that direction, there is no assurance that any of the bits of a UUID are generated in a cryptographically secure manner. If you're using a UUID library that chooses…
Re: Flickr: Invitations disclosure (resend feature)
#59The response to this bug is atrocious and shameful. The developer that responded to this did the same as putting on a blindfold and declaring that because they could no longer see the bug, it must not exist. Right from the get-go, schofield showed incompetence when they declared they couldn't reproduce the bug, even though it was explained to them plainly and thoroughly! How do these inept developers get hired?
Every company I have worked for has a support organization that deals with customer tickets like this. They might escalate the issue to development, or they might not. But either way they're the ones involved in the conversation.
Re: Flickr: Invitations disclosure (resend feature)
#60Actually the Yahoo! employee (schofield?) in the above link is right and you cannot blame him for this - it is because Yahoo! really think first name + last name + email are not private information AFAIK, not particularly to Flickr, there are multiple ways to retrieve these information...
For example, at the company I work for, we have a master list, with several levels. Things like password and SSN are the most sensitive, and have much more stringent requirements for how we handle them than a user name.
I think it'd be useful as a user to know what each company's policies are. Ex: Yahoo doesn't mind linking name/email publicly, so maybe I give them a false name. It'd also be useful for companies to compare themselves to their peers, and make corrections if/where they diverge.