Like the 'poached' campaign, dislike the misspelling of 'employess' in the article's headline.
Startup Uses Eggs to Poach Employees from Facebook, Google
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#42I have no issues with companies courting employees from other companies; it shifts the power balance a bit back towards the individual for a change. I am, however, a little put off by the term "poached", which BigCommerce is actively using in their campaign. It implies the sentiment that these people are simply a quarry being hunted as a prize rather people, of their own free will, deciding that the grass is greener…
Is using the word "poached" just a joke since they are handing out poached egg sandwiches?
Nope! The poached egg sandwiches are a joke, since they're "poaching".
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree with you both because as the GGP said, companies don't own employees. In the business world I see poaching as hiring a person who you learned about solely through their employment at the company in question.
My reply was to phrasing in the GP comment that has since changed (It talked about poaching being a literary allusion to dating or marriage). I definitely think some business use of the word poaching is intended to stir up the idea that some sort of trespass has occurred, but language also tends to like such cute usages (regardless of the presence of an underlying agenda).
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#44The writing on this site seems pretty terrible: http://www.freshtechapps.com/7-reddit-amas-that-went-horribl...
Well sure, start with this: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Bigcommerce-tries-poachin... ... then rewrite it until it doesn't look like it was straight-up ripped off.
Edit: this, too, complete with the same photos: http://mashable.com/2014/04/04/startup-eggs-recruiting/
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would think the allusion is rooted in hunting, where poaching is taking something you don't have a right to take.
I disagree with you both because as the GGP said, companies don't own employees. In the business world I see poaching as hiring a person who you learned about solely through their employment at the company in question.
I tend to think of poaching as a bit broader than that, but not just cold calling someone because you know they work at X.
For example, if someone leaves the company, and then there is a concerted effort to recruit other members of that team or based on their recommendation that is poaching. If you've signed an agreement that forbids this, and you actively take part in it, I think it is wrong; otherwise it is fine.
Alternatively, if you've engaged a companies services and then try and hire away the people doing the work to disintermediate the service providing compnay, that would probably count as poaching in my book too.
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#46More like, startup uses eggs to get free media coverage. The eggs do nothing to help recruiting.
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#47Hmm. Seems like a technique with a very low success rate: out of 1,000 applicants they hired 2? So what's that, a .2% success rate?
Seems like there has to be techniques with better success rate than that...
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#48The article uses an interesting phrase "[BC] has been accused of poaching [employees]". As if competition on the buyer-side of the labor market was morally suspect... Steve Jobs would have approved of the sentiment!
The mugs of coffee they're handing out say #poached on them along with their URL. They're serving poached egg sandwiches. http://www.freshtechapps.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Eggs... It's not the article, it's the company themselves.
My point was about "accussation" rather than about "poaching".
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Two good points ... it's also interesting that the word "poaching" has negative connotations [1] but if you read those definitions the impression is that poaching employees is somehow wrong rather than being a facet of a competition-based economy. How can an at-will employee be considered "another's property, rights, ideas, or the like". [1] http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/poaching
Poaching is going after anyone employed currenty, IMHO. Taking applicants from un-employed job seekers was traditional "hiring". World has moved on, presumably tho. Switching contexts, ou would be "poaching" someones significant other (~negative connotation). vs Just "picking up" a single person you met at a bar (~fair game connotation). TLDR english is a loaded language
No, that's not accurate. "Poaching" is a strategy used by employers in which specific companies are targeted from which to acquire employees. By your definition of "poaching", virtually all hiring of software engineers would be "poaching", because most software engineers are already employed.
Company X hiring an inbound lead that happens to be from company Y: not poaching.
Company X hiring a recruiter-based lead that happens to be from company Y: not poaching.
Company X instructing recruiters to draw up a list of employees of company Y and target them individually by persuading them to leave their jobs: poaching.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree with you both because as the GGP said, companies don't own employees. In the business world I see poaching as hiring a person who you learned about solely through their employment at the company in question.
I tend to think of poaching as a bit broader than that, but not just cold calling someone because you know they work at X. For example, if someone leaves the company, and then there is a concerted effort to recruit other members of that team or based on their recommendation that is poaching. If you've signed an agreement that forbids this, and you actively take part in it, I think it is wrong; otherwise it is fine. A…
I consider both scenarios you described to fall squarely under my definition. Think about it, in both cases you learned about the prospects through their employment at said company.