Mozilla just can't catch a break
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Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break
#2They're trolling, right? this is a joke, right?
Please tell me this is a joke.
Edit:
There's nothing on the page in the image: http://www.catholicvote.org/?s=firefox&submit=%C2%A0
So i assume this is indeed just a joke.
Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break
#3Freedom of speech goes both ways...
Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break
#4They're trolling, right? this is a joke, right? Please tell me this is a joke. Edit: There's nothing on the page in the image: http://www.catholicvote.org/?s=firefox&submit=%C2%A0 So i assume this is indeed just a joke.
Not a joke. See https://twitter.com/CatholicVote/status/452108584126410752.
They should be free to speak their mind as the opposition, correct?
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#5Freedom of speech goes both ways...
I probably shouldn't even bring this up. This whole thread will be knocked off the front-page shortly anyway... but I just had a heated debate with a coworker that's an Eich-supporter and found his logic disturbing and ethically broken when it expanded to views on racism, sexism, homophobia. But for all those people who support Eich and keep saying freedom-of-speech goes both ways even for "unpopular opinions":
How would you define Hate Speech. Do you think it's okay? Do you think Google is right for not allowing Hate Speech on youtube?
I'm only asking because I want to know if these Eich-supporters have a limit somewhere; where speech becomes harmful - from just expressing yourself to inflicting a tangible negative effect on others who do not wish it. While I'm not accusing Eich of hate speech, I believe his donation to an effort to make a law which forces his belief on others - something that has nothing to do with how he lives his own life - is similar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech
>>In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group.
Am I crazy for thinking that prop8 disparages the love between two men or women that want to get married? Isn't the core of prop8 based on people who cannot accept the LGBT community and want to keep marriage for themselves? Shouldn't society squash this kind of thing out of law?
Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break
#6This was the fairly inevitable conclusion of forcing him to quit. Nobody has come out of this looking good.
Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break
#7I don't know whether this is a joke or not, but what do you expect? Proposition 8 passed. A majority of people were in favor of it. You think those people would just rule out applying the same sort of pressure on mozilla that worked so effectively?
This is why, despite supporting gay marriage, I think it is abhorrent that Brendan Eich was effectively forced to resign. He donated privately to a campaign that was supported by a majority of people, but somehow that makes it ok to destroy his career because we don't agree with his stance. I don't particularly want to inhabit a society where that is the norm. It makes me very uneasy.
Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break
#8This was the fairly inevitable conclusion of forcing him to quit. Nobody has come out of this looking good.
I agree. The whole episode has been a disaster for Mozilla's mission.
Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break
#9They're trolling, right? this is a joke, right? Please tell me this is a joke. Edit: There's nothing on the page in the image: http://www.catholicvote.org/?s=firefox&submit=%C2%A0 So i assume this is indeed just a joke.
Not a joke. See https://twitter.com/CatholicVote/status/452108584126410752 . They should be free to speak their mind as the opposition, correct?
No no, it's already been clearly established in these threads. The pro-gay-marriage side is the only side that gets to speak their minds, because they are the side that is right.
That's how freedom of speech works, after all. Only the person who is right gets it.
Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break
#10Freedom of speech goes both ways...
I probably shouldn't even bring this up. This whole thread will be knocked off the front-page shortly anyway... but I just had a heated debate with a coworker that's an Eich-supporter and found his logic disturbing and ethically broken when it expanded to views on racism, sexism, homophobia. But for all those people who support Eich and keep saying freedom-of-speech goes both ways even for "unpopular opinions": How w…
Hate speech is actually often? sometimes? protected in the USA.