I use it for python and I managed to build a compiled .NET app with SD and IronPython, and for this feature I will always use SharpDevelop.
But I still like PTVS because it supports autocomplete.
Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio
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Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio
#32Out of interest, how does this compare with the free editions of Visual Studio? Is there any compelling reason to use it over them? I am genuinely interested; I don't do much (any?) C# at the moment.
It can be used with dot42 - C# to Android compiler.
Visual Studio Express can't.
Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio
#33No. The word "alternative" implies a certain quality and that you can actually switch. Sorry but this isn't the case here. I've used SharpDevelop in the past but there is a world of difference between VS + R# and SharpDevelop.
It is an alternative, for certain users like me: I occasionally dabble in .NET development. If I had time to spend with Visual Studio, I can tell it would be the better tool, but SharpDevelop is free, fast, and has everything I know enough to use anyway.
Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio
#34No. The word "alternative" implies a certain quality and that you can actually switch. Sorry but this isn't the case here. I've used SharpDevelop in the past but there is a world of difference between VS + R# and SharpDevelop.
I am with you, but I think that Roslyn has a really good change to change that. Sometimes I wonder how Roslyn will affect JetBrains' business. It should be pretty easy to re-produce quite a lot of core ReSharper features.
I caught a bit of the Build live stream yesterday. Showed some R# like code cleanup in the next version of VS.
Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio
#35This is nice, but no... it will never replace VS. I'm sorry if I sound arrogant, but if anyone disagrees than they either never used VS or don't know its potential. I'm no MS fanboy, but VS is simply the best IDE.
No, it isn't. It's the best IDE for C# on a windows OS. Important to have those qualifiers.
I would really love to have a better alternative for C++ development.
Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weird, so the best place to develop with Mono is actually on Windows????? What's the point of making it cross platform then?
Don't need no stinkin IDE, just a text editor and a compiler. You'll learn more than when using an IDE.
If you're a student / novice working on small projects, aiming to learn and improve yourself maybe. If you work in a production environment "learning" isn't a strong enough reason.
Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio
#37No. The word "alternative" implies a certain quality and that you can actually switch. Sorry but this isn't the case here. I've used SharpDevelop in the past but there is a world of difference between VS + R# and SharpDevelop.
It is an alternative, for certain users like me: I occasionally dabble in .NET development. If I had time to spend with Visual Studio, I can tell it would be the better tool, but SharpDevelop is free, fast, and has everything I know enough to use anyway.
Doesn't Microsoft offer a free, feature-limited, version of Visual Studio?
Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio
#38I've been following this for a while. I applaud the effort but there is no way they can keep up with VS. Also Xamarin forked SharpDevelop ages ago into MonoDevelop, but I don't know if any contributions flow back from MonoDevelop to SharpDevelop.
I don't think it necessarily has to keep up with VS as that will always be a loosing battle. I just think it needs to feature complete in its own way to make it a viable alternative, and I think they are at the point of achieving that.
If you aim for feature parity with a product from a company that can devote orders of magnitude more resources (and influence external requirements) than yours, you'll always lose.
The only way to win is to redefine the criteria by which your products are measured in a way that your product becomes the superior one and your huge competitor's can't immediately follow. In this case, you'd have to redefine what an IDE is supposed to do by building one that's much better in a significant scenario than VS.
Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is an alternative, for certain users like me: I occasionally dabble in .NET development. If I had time to spend with Visual Studio, I can tell it would be the better tool, but SharpDevelop is free, fast, and has everything I know enough to use anyway.
Doesn't Microsoft offer a free, feature-limited, version of Visual Studio?
Yes, its called Visual Studio Express.
You can get web, windows (8.x) app, desktop, TFS, and windows phone versions.
http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-exp...
Re: Sharp Develop – Open Source Alternative to Visual Studio
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't Microsoft offer a free, feature-limited, version of Visual Studio?
Yes, its called Visual Studio Express. You can get web, windows (8.x) app, desktop, TFS, and windows phone versions. http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-exp...
And what are the artificial limitations of VS Express for C# projects? What can this alternative do that VS Express can't?