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Re: Microsoft Open Sources C# Compiler

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Post by mirkules »

gilday wrote: post #299
scg wrote: post #265

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MS Office for Mac is pretty well done IMHO

While I really like using MS Office 2013, I just can't use MS Office for Mac. It doesn't seem to integrate with the OS very well. I hope that the next version is better - hopefully retina screen support

I agree, it's painfully slow for anything but simple tasks. My former company (in)famously does everything in Excel (including Gant and flow charts), and being the only guy with OSX the load times were terrible, the UI sluggish and it crashed often. I was really quite surprised how snappy the UI was when looking at a coworker's windows box.

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Post by voltagex_ »

rottyguy wrote: post #255
tormeh wrote: post #221

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Well, I'd like to see Visual Studio for Linux with support for Java, Scala, Clojure, Haskell and other non-Microsoft technologies. That's my wishlist in this bright new era of Microsoft openness. I don't like Microsoft but Visual Studio is the only IDE I've ever tried that is substantially better than gedit/jedit. The auto-completion (intellisense) is just delightful to use.

I'd rather see C# across the board and write once run anywhere (eg release a linux distro with .net support built in).

I'm fairly sure Mono is installed by default on Ubuntu. I'm not sure what happens to Windows Forms or WPF code in that case though.

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Post by tracker1 »

mg74 wrote: post #252
kyllo wrote: post #100

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Just use Powershell, or install Cygwin. What good is a unix terminal without a unix filesystem, anyway?

Its not the filesystem thats the problem, but the terrible partitioned-backslash-ridden namespace. Come on MS, embrace the forward slash already.

I haven't noticed the forward slash not working anywhere I need to use paths, from the command prompt and elsewhere.. it doesn't work for tab completion at a command prompt though.

You can always use a bash/cygwin prompt for that if you want.

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Post by crazy1van »

darksim905 wrote: post #302
nitrogen wrote: post #289

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Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Documents Continue here if you feel extraordinarily ambitious: http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=2007021720... (Comes vs. Microsoft)

Damn, give it a break those Halloween Documents were over 10 years ago. The pricing thing is one bit, Microsoft hasn't really been too shy about that, but neither has Intel. The whole bundling of IE - how else did you expect someone to browse the web? I don't get it. People don't want IE in Windows yet can never give an answer of how people will get anything else. Then Microsoft has to give people choice. Such a voca…

Yeah. I get so mad when the default Ubuntu install gives me Firefox. Sure I can always just immediately use FF to download another browser, but it is so anti-competitive! Such monopoly!

Seriously though, you have to have an initial browser to be able to get the browser you want. Of course a company will make that initial browser the one they make themselves. I've never understood the outrage over this.

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Post by MertsA »

bicknergseng wrote: post #206
Delmania wrote: post #180

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Subtle difference: Apple and IBM have made use of free software such as FreeBSD, CUPS, Webkit, etc. Microsoft here is taking core technology and releasing it as free.

Important. Also, Oracle has bought/absorbed free software and slowly suffocated it (lookin at you, MySQL).

Don't forget OpenOffice.

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Post by fpgeek »

coldtea wrote: post #284
davidgerard wrote: post #202

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I think one would be exceedingly foolish not to exercise the very greatest of caution. This is Microsoft we're talking about - they have a track record of profound fuckery. But I do indeed think this is better than not having happened.

> This is Microsoft we're talking about - they have a track record of profound fuckery. Any examples? Besides "bundling IE with the OS and pressuring some OEM vendors back in the nineties"?

How about the fake incompatibility between DR-DOS and Windows?

How about bankrolling SCO's lawsuit?

How about all of the patent shakedowns (Linux, Android, Rockstar, ...)? And their new pro-software-patent advocacy group?

And that's just off the top of my head.

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Post by TwoSheds »

coldtea wrote: post #284
davidgerard wrote: post #202

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I think one would be exceedingly foolish not to exercise the very greatest of caution. This is Microsoft we're talking about - they have a track record of profound fuckery. But I do indeed think this is better than not having happened.

> This is Microsoft we're talking about - they have a track record of profound fuckery. Any examples? Besides "bundling IE with the OS and pressuring some OEM vendors back in the nineties"?

How about this document http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepape...
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