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Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO

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Re: Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO

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Post by akerl_ »

phillmv wrote: post #14

From the recode recap - http://recode.net/2014/04/03/mozilla-co-founder-brendan-eich... >“It’s clear that Brendan cannot lead Mozilla in this setting,” said Baker, who added that she would not and could not speak for Eich. “The ability to lead — particularly for the CEO — is fundamental to the role and that is not possible here.” The most damning aspect of this was their a) inability to predict this would be an issue…

I would have considered him a worse person if he'd done that. I disagree with his opinions on marriage, but he has the right to have those opinions, and to provide support for causes he believes in.

I'm not shocked the he is stepping down, or that others in the organization appear to have applied substantial pressure on him to do so, but it makes me sad. Their statements about supporting freedom of speech are hollow: the community has pressured him to step down because he expressed an opinion not held by the majority.

Re: Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO

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Post by [deleted] »

weixiyen wrote: post #58
phillmv wrote: post #14

From the recode recap - http://recode.net/2014/04/03/mozilla-co-founder-brendan-eich... >“It’s clear that Brendan cannot lead Mozilla in this setting,” said Baker, who added that she would not and could not speak for Eich. “The ability to lead — particularly for the CEO — is fundamental to the role and that is not possible here.” The most damning aspect of this was their a) inability to predict this would be an issue…

So the ideal CEO is someone who will lie about his beliefs the second it becomes inconvenient for him?

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Re: Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO

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Post by lnlyplnt »

aray wrote: post #56
Beliavsky wrote: post #15

From the article: "We have employees with a wide diversity of views. Our culture of openness extends to encouraging staff and community to share their beliefs and opinions in public." Clearly people with socially conservative views are not welcome at Mozilla.

I think Eich as the CTO directly refutes that statement. It's not even clear whether he's just going back to being CTO, or leaving entirely.

it was fine as long as nobody noticed. They didn't stick to their guns once he was at the top.

Re: Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO

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Post by pkulak »

Beliavsky wrote: post #15

From the article: "We have employees with a wide diversity of views. Our culture of openness extends to encouraging staff and community to share their beliefs and opinions in public." Clearly people with socially conservative views are not welcome at Mozilla.

Actions bother me, not beliefs. And this guy donated $1000 to help hurt other people. That makes me angry, and it makes me not like any corporation he's head of. When that corporation cares what its customers think of them, they'll make a change in leadership. I don't know why everyone is making more of this than it is.

Re: Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO

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Post by ionforce »

coreymgilmore wrote: post #21

Well it happened. I think this is a little extreme and that he shouldn't have succumbed to the pressure. Apparently freedom of speech is no longer accepted by plenty of people in the US. It is okay to put money towards and protest for equal rights, but anytime someone says something negative against it all hell breaks loose. That being said, in general, I think people are a little too sensitive toward anything non-po…

When is equal rights not a good thing?

Re: Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO

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Post by amaral-herberth »

ZanyProgrammer wrote: post #38
amaral-herberth wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are not right on this one. Eich was clearly persecuted politically.

Who persecuted Eich? His detractors were merely engaging in their freedom of speech. You know, free market and all that.

I don't think so, pal. There is absolutely no evidence that Eich would be a real threat of freedom of speech inside Mozilla. He stepped down because of pression over his political views, which has nothing to do with his competence or the way he treats people.

Re: Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO

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Post by radicalbyte »

phillmv wrote: post #14

From the recode recap - http://recode.net/2014/04/03/mozilla-co-founder-brendan-eich... >“It’s clear that Brendan cannot lead Mozilla in this setting,” said Baker, who added that she would not and could not speak for Eich. “The ability to lead — particularly for the CEO — is fundamental to the role and that is not possible here.” The most damning aspect of this was their a) inability to predict this would be an issue…

> All he had to do was lie

I may be diametrically opposed to Brendan's views, but he has earned my respect by being honest and sticking to his values.

Re: Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO

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Post by gum_ina_package »

I honestly feel like Brendan is the victim here. He might have religious or moral views on gay marriage that some of us don't agree with, but being forced to step down as CEO because of those views... well that's something I don't think any of his critics should be proud of.

Re: Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO

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Post by mbillie1 »

All of this over a $1,000 donation, apparently. I think it's a bad cause and a bad donation, and I don't have any sympathy at all for the anti-gay-marriage types, but it's crazy to me to hang someone over a thousand dollar donation. What percentage of the total money donated to prop 8 do you think that represented?
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