while its hard to learn , the results angular produces is very good. Just don't give up because its hard. Good things are hard.
The reason Angular JS will fail
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Re: The reason Angular JS will fail
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish there was more discussion of the core concepts in Angular instead of just the implementation. Custom Elements + Two-way Data Binding + Services seems to be a pretty powerful combination.
That's what I was looking for when I found Angular. There are definitely two questions worth asking: 1) Is that combination really what we want? (I think it is) and 2) Is Angular's approach the only right way to do it? So far, they've got the mindshare and a serious head start.
So far, they've got the mindshare and a serious head start.
I keep on hearing this, but I really haven't heard of it being in any large projects other than DoubleClick. I don't know if I'd consider being used in a bunch of small hobby projects a 'head start'.
Re: The reason Angular JS will fail
#53why are people commenting on this nonsense? he obviously didn't do the research to back his logic and made shallow arguments nor did he once address any of the other competing frameworks to AngularJS does he think none of those are complicated either?
Re: The reason Angular JS will fail
#54A tool doesn't fail because it's difficult, it fails if its difficulty is not worth the results it produces. A chainsaw is more difficult than a plain old saw. You gotta make sure it's fueled up, oiled and whatnot. You might even have to read instructions the first time! But is it worth it? That's the question, and it goes completely unaddressed in this post.
Pretty much this. Angular isn't there to replace jQuery or do simple things that can be done in minutes in jQuery; Angular's for building applications. I like the analogy in the first comment on the page itself.
The article links to another page where the author rants about why Angular sucks; the second paragraph already indicates the author is trying to do direct DOM manipulation, which is exactly what Angular tries to prevent you from doing. It's an abstraction layer (amongst other things).
tl;dr I wonder if the author ever worked on a production-sized single page application.
Re: The reason Angular JS will fail
#55The author doesn't seem to be building a complex single-page app. If that's the case, then yes, jQuery is easier than Angular.
If the author IS trying to build a complex single-page app, then I see absolutely no reason why jQuery would be preferable to Angular. Angular does one job and does it well. jQuery is a strong candidate for most reasons you'd ever need javascript in the browser.
Yeah, I do agree that Angular's documentation is lacking, especially compared to jQuery's docs. Also, Angular is not my personal first choice front-end UI framework. However, for CRUD application development, I care much more about Angular's holistic approach rather than being able to procedurally manipulate each DOM node and event handler as I would in jQuery.
I appreciate the author's passion and think the arguments are valid, but I also feel that this is an unconvincing apples-to-oranges comparison. In my completely honest opinion, I'm not incredibly excited about EITHER Angular or jQuery, but I am grateful for both.
Re: The reason Angular JS will fail
#56We found that the Angular learning curve was steep and was difficult to bring new devs up to speed quickly. Our solution was to migrate from Angular to ReactJS. Much simpler, faster and better.
Are you using React with anything else at the moment?
Re: The reason Angular JS will fail
#57An intriguing text. But the whole reason Angular will fail is because its too difficult? Really? Have you tried to develop for your "savior" Steve Jobs? iOS development is difficult, probably way more than it should be. The reason its successful is because you can make A LOT of money with it. Same with web development, especially well-organized and stable systems, which can be achieved with AngularJS by a relatively mediocre developer.
Re: The reason Angular JS will fail
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually that same blogger wrote such a piece regarding git: http://okmaya.com/2014/03/10/git-kinda-sucks/
For those interested, he's also written a web framework: http://okmaya.com/2012/08/08/successfully-completed-the-fram... It eschews OOP, for the following reasons: "1. Now imagine coming to a website where you have to wait even 30 seconds for every page to load because it has to build objects. Just doesn’t make any sense. 2.Why build objects on every page load, when all the objects are going to be gone once the page…
No offense to the author, but he's clearly a junior developer with a blog. Literally every single indicator points to that: overly simplistic, linkbait-y headlines, complete lack of technical examples, no technical anecdotes, overly long articles.
We all go through the "all other software sucks, it's too complex" phase. The difference is how you handle the realization, and how you let that taste influence your own programming. Some software is necessarily complex.
Re: The reason Angular JS will fail
#59I keep seeing articles on HN that make me say, "Oh, that is just total click-bait fluff".
However, I usually click on them anyway. I'm ashamed of myself. :(
Re: The reason Angular JS will fail
#60Angular is actually simple once you know it. It just isn't easy to learn.
I am not a smart man. While I have had my struggles with some aspects of Angular, there is no way I could be delivering projects of the complexity I'm working on now without it.
I suspect it's only difficult to people who don't make sophisticated things.