I'm one of the heavy users of this. It integrates with all my devices better than other options. Google Still hasn't released a Linux client and the dropbox app has been very flakey for me in Ubuntu. I've set my phone camera pics auto sync to all my devices. All my music and photos are backed up with Ubuntu One. When I upgrade my OS version, I sync all important files here. When I switched jobs late last year, my mus…
Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
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Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
#172Very awesome that they release the code. I wish all companies would open source code they don't use anymore. I mean it really doesn't cost anything pushing your old code in a github repo or something.
Troubling that Ubuntu One wasn't already open source. Can anyone explain to me why every cloud drive is using their own proprietary protocols to do the same thing? Why we have to install a different client for each vendor? That's one thing that annoys me greatly, and I'll never use Dropbox as long as its syncing tool is proprietary. Does anyone else remember when companies were proud that they were the custodians of…
Why is that troubling? Why should a service provider open source the software that they use for providing the service? You're not 'receiving' the software code of the server parts -- providing the storage functionality -- but are just using that.
In this case, the Ubuntu One client software and protocol libraries were already open source, and their statement suggests that they will also be open sourcing the server software code shortly.
As another example and similar case -- server software code that implements the storage functionality not available as open source -- is this quote on Tarsnap:
> While the Tarsnap code is not distributed under an open source license, Tarsnap contributes back to the open source community via bug fixes and enhancements to [...]
In these cases, the storage parts implement the competitive advantages for the provider. Now that Ubuntu One is stopping to leverage that competitive advantage, it remains a classy move to open source their implementation.
Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think those examples were ever representative, and recent examples still exist: Google alone has WebP, WebM and KML, at least. And PNG didn't came from a company, it came from an ad-hoc group, and we definitively still have ad-hoc groups coming up with new standard formats. Even though cloud syncing is simple enough that dozens of companies have reinvented it, the companies don't feel any obligation (as I per…
You may be right, I may be looking at the past with rose-colored glasses. But still, it feels worse these days. Those formats I mentioned might have been developed by groups, but they were groups made up of companies with expertise, right? With cloud syncing we have a few open alternatives, you mentioned ownCloud, but there's also git annex, and clearskies (btsync clone). But those are all community projects. No corp…
Yeah, but that still happens. There's the W3C and the WHATWG, of course, but also formats like Opus (Xiph.Org, Skype, Mozilla and others) and protocols like OData.
At least in the OpenDocument days you had Sun as the corporate owners. (...) Why does DropBox not feel some responsibility to step in here, as the industry leader? This is a company that was launched on HackerNews. You are like us, why does this not bother you?
I think you're being a little unfair to Dropbox here. You should remember that Sun was in a very different situation: they weren't market leaders, they were users and the main vendor (MS) was asking them so much to license Office, that it was cheaper to flat-out buy StarOffice. And then opening it up was certainly socially beneficial, but it was also a way of pulling some power from Microsoft's hands and making it easier for Sun to avoid licensing their suite.
Dropbox, on the other hand, has no clear business case for opening up. They'd be adding a lot of risk to their main and only product, and for what? Good will?
I'm not saying they shouldn't open up, but I don't think we should judge them too harshly.
By the way, I'm very doubtful of the idea that HN has a whole has an ethical position on opening up. I'd say the mainstream position here is "we like open source if and when it benefits us". Which is why you see plenty of open source libraries and programming tools, but very few open consumer software. Proprietary SaaS is the mantra around here, not FOSS applications.
Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
#174Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
#175I'm one of the heavy users of this. It integrates with all my devices better than other options. Google Still hasn't released a Linux client and the dropbox app has been very flakey for me in Ubuntu. I've set my phone camera pics auto sync to all my devices. All my music and photos are backed up with Ubuntu One. When I upgrade my OS version, I sync all important files here. When I switched jobs late last year, my mus…
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#176Thank you! Ubuntu One is a buggy, laggy mess and frankly an embarrassment to Canonical. What would be neat is if they made a GUI for BTSync, and sold pre-configured hard drive space for it!
One time I needed to make something around 5 GB publicly available, and since Dropbox's free plan was too small, I used Ubuntu One.
Only after two days' worth of painful, oft-restarted uploading did I discover they require logging in to access publicly available files.
This is a mercy killing.
Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
I must admit that, more than once, an Ubuntu upgrade killed my audio and I had to go and fix it myself. It's really painful that a distro that wants to be number 1 is so broken at times.
What distro do you propose instead that has equally fresh packages and more stability?
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#178Did the timelines seem awfully aggressive to anyone? (June 1 service stops, July 31 all data is erased) For a service that we were suppose to be syncing our lives to, that seems like a really abrupt, customer unfriendly ramp-down. I would have expected something more like: 1. April 1 - no new accounts. 2. May 1 - can no longer add files to your existing account. 3. May - Dec - nagged/reminded constantly to pull your…
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#179Between various bugs, shit that just plain doesn't work, cancelled projects and now Ubuntu One, it seems Canonical likes shooting themselves in the foot... Maybe if they had actually marketed Ubuntu One and made it better they could be a Dropbox competitor. Then again, maybe they just don't have the expertise to make half of this shit work.
No wonder SUSE is a billion dollar company, Red Hat a multi-billion dollar company (with over a billion in yearly revenue), and Canonical a trust fund baby...
Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services
#180I've loved Ubuntu One for years. This is too sad, I would've wanted to have Ubuntu use it automatically for all kinds of things such as home directory backups etc. Are there any good open-source self-hosted options that I could run on my little box at home? Preferably something that doesn't require a special setup or deployment on a server. I could imagine there are file-sync solutions that just need an operable SSH…