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What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

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Re: What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

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Moving beyond the exaggeration of the sketch, the irony here is that being the only engineer in a business meeting puts you in an incredibly powerful position - if you see the opportunity and know how to take advantage of it. Learning to interact with non-technical stakeholders and finding ways to deliver solutions perceived as adding value to a business is one of the best ways to make real money in this industry. Fo…

I think your claim requires some elaboration. How about some concrete examples?

Re: What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

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Love it. A few years ago at a place I was helping out in, one of the devs had built a clock for the conference room that, at the start of a meeting, you punched the number of people in the meeting into. It knew the average company salary (this was a ~15 person software house) and would count up the "money spent" given the number of people in the room and the time on the clock. Very motivating.

Someone I worked with at a previous job tried the average salary clock thing. I mentioned to him that if he really cared, he could just work late to make up for the loss. The clock didn't come to any more meetings.

Alternatively, your pay could have been docked for not caring about wasting company resources.

Re: What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

#33

I think it's like being a man in an all-girls gathering. You can either be awkward or the center of attention. It depends on your perception and how you would present yourself.

> You can either be awkward or the center of attention. Or you could, say, not radically alter your behavior based on the genders of the people around you.

hormones, emotions, and sexuality are a hell of a drug

Re: What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

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> You can either be awkward or the center of attention. Or you could, say, not radically alter your behavior based on the genders of the people around you.

Or you could, say, accept that in most cultures the shared experience of associating with a specific gender while growing up leads to topics and conversations that are easier to have, sustain, and enjoy while talking to people of the same gender. This doesn't require you "radically alter your behavior", just that you understand that different groups of people often accept and find topics interesting at different leve…

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Re: What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

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post #27

Some of the comments here claim this is just showing how engineers think they are the only smart ones, or how there's equal frustration pointed back at engineers. However, this is illustrating a particular problem that only[2] affects engineers -- engineers are the ones at the end of the day who have to make a solution reality. This particular weight doesn't fall on any other role. It's easy for anyone, including eng…

I wouldn't be surprised if accountants are also affected. There's something so excruciating about acting as a hypothesis checker for hours while the people in the room gradually develop the knowledge they need to solve their own problems because they don't trust you enough to delegate.

Re: What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

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post #30

Stupid engineer...just draw the thing in an 11-dimensional space, and he would have gotten transparency and perpendicularity. No wonder he got talked down by management.

My comment when someone posted this on Facebook earlier today-

"Although... A true engineer would know how to solve the problem of 7 perpendicular lines. And a master corporate engineer would get the budget for developing 7 perpendicular lines. Actually, that more or less explains defense contractors"

Re: What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

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post #10

At one marketing-overrun startup, the suits were calling two hour meetings every afternoon and then wondering why I wasn't getting any work done. So I installed a cuckoo clock in that meeting room. The CEO loved it; he even helped wind it. I knew I'd succeeded when one of the marketing types looked at the clock and said, "I hate that thing." I don't remember if the meetings got any shorter or less frequent, but they…

Love it. A few years ago at a place I was helping out in, one of the devs had built a clock for the conference room that, at the start of a meeting, you punched the number of people in the meeting into. It knew the average company salary (this was a ~15 person software house) and would count up the "money spent" given the number of people in the room and the time on the clock. Very motivating.

Did the clock also total up all the days spent down rabbit-holes resulting in worthless work because there wasn't adequate communication? :)

It does remind me though of a guy I once knew (late 90s) who was a senior manager at the national arm of a large, well-known international investment bank. He'd be in a meeting with the CEO and the rest of the senior managers, and the CEO wouldn't let the meeting commence if there were any computer cords visible, sometimes taking up to 15 minutes to personally clear away cords...

Re: What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

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post #19

I think it's like being a man in an all-girls gathering. You can either be awkward or the center of attention. It depends on your perception and how you would present yourself.

Girls? Like 8 year olds? Who says 'girls' anymore?

Dunno where you live but a lot of people do.

Re: What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Love it. A few years ago at a place I was helping out in, one of the devs had built a clock for the conference room that, at the start of a meeting, you punched the number of people in the meeting into. It knew the average company salary (this was a ~15 person software house) and would count up the "money spent" given the number of people in the room and the time on the clock. Very motivating.

Someone I worked with at a previous job tried the average salary clock thing. I mentioned to him that if he really cared, he could just work late to make up for the loss. The clock didn't come to any more meetings.

I'm not sure I catch your drift.. I hope you weren't serious about your suggestion, or that you honestly think it was a helpful suggestion.

Re: What it is like being the only engineer in a meeting [video]

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can either be awkward or the center of attention. Or you could, say, not radically alter your behavior based on the genders of the people around you.

Or you could, say, accept that in most cultures the shared experience of associating with a specific gender while growing up leads to topics and conversations that are easier to have, sustain, and enjoy while talking to people of the same gender. This doesn't require you "radically alter your behavior", just that you understand that different groups of people often accept and find topics interesting at different leve…

Accepting it is exactly what I don't want to do - the only way common biases (like "it's weird/uncomfortable/etc being the only man speaking in a group of women") change is when they are overcome rather than accepted.
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