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Re: Macaw V1 Released

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Post by orthecreedence »

cwaniak wrote: post #36
zz1 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it ships with NSA backdoors! FREE

I heard that some of the open source developers work to seed the code with 0-days that can be sold for as much as $250k a pop to NSA… So… NOTHING IS FOR FREE! And with Apple you can at least get a decent GUI that doesn't make your eyes bleed.

Your opinions are subjective. OSx makes my eyes bleed both in its design and its unrelenting use of ridiculous animations. It feels like it was made for toddlers. It takes BSD and bastardizes it enough to make it so some things require the GUI and some require command line and it's not immediately obvious which is which (at least coming from a Linux background). In Linux you know you're going to spend 95% of your time in the command line, and on Windows 95% in GUI.

A nice thing about Linux is if you don't like the GUI, switch it out for another one. Can your mac do that? No, not without wiping OSx and installing Linux.

The OSx GUI is usable for many people, but it's in no way a holy grail of design or productivity.

Re: Macaw V1 Released

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Post by camus2 »

jeremyt wrote: post #14

Some thoughts: I heard about this a couple months ago at a conference on rapid prototyping, and I've been waiting for it to come out in the hopes that we would finally have a rapid prototyping solution for user interface designs. I'm basically looking for a balsamiq with lots of built-in animations and UI interaction patterns. Unfortunately, it looks like this product is geared more towards being a full-featured WYSI…

Fireworks was an excellent prototyping tool,and when I say excellent i mean the best and the easiest to use out there.It was infortunatly "depreacated" by Adobe.

Re: Macaw V1 Released

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Post by markjspivey »

I preordered Macaw and intend on trying it out... I also own and use Adobe Edge Animate and Sublime Text, etc...

Can someone offer a distinction between tooling such as Text Editors, such as Macaw, such as Dreamweaver, such as Edge Animate that actually makes sense per people's arguments and each company's prospective use cases?

Many people are arguing that Macaw would be great for prototyping but that the code generated is not production ready, but I would argue that Adobe Edge Animate by that logic would offer an even better prototyping environment, but have not heard people go gaga over it for such purpose like they have Macaw.

If people do argue that code generated by Macaw is production ready (in some form), then why would Adobe Edge Animate not also be production ready... for same purpose?

Re: Macaw V1 Released

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Post by rglover »

A lot of folks are hating on this but realize a few things:

1.) This is the first version. We're creeping into an era where a couple of dudes can compete with MASSIVE corporations. Expect rough edges, but give congratulations where they're due.

2.) This is the future, like it or not.

I'm a developer (primarily front-end) and while I may not immediately integrate this into my workflow, I can see it becoming a staple for many as it evolves. The idea of "drawing" code is very intuitive.

Übergeeks will bitch and moan about how it's not the perfect solution or how they'd rather code it by hand. That's all fine, but don't ignore it because it's not your ideal solution on day one. Give it time.

If you're smart, you'll at least play with this on a side project and learn the basic mechanics. If this works out well and continues to evolve, it could replace a lot of jobs – think about that.

Re: Macaw V1 Released

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Post by mikewhy »

untilHellbanned wrote: post #46

Trying it out for about 15 minutes now... First thought is that its more confusing than just making a HTML file and playing with that in Chrome+dev tools.

And someone who has spent their life in Photoshop will probably say that a HTML file + Browser dev tools is more confusing than using Macaw ...

I backed this project, and haven't really used it yet. I am also not a designer.

That's where I think the sweet spot is. Like many others I am a developer and being handed a .psd / .ai / whatever is just awful. At least this tool gives great markup for us to build on. Heck, I'm pretty sure the project files can be checked right into version control.

Re: Macaw V1 Released

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Post by taylorlapeyre »

salimmadjd wrote: post #58

The team deserves a congratulation to produce and ship a decent product on both platforms in a relatively fast pace given their limited resources (they're not Adobe or MS). However, I'm critical of the site and the HN post. It seems to me the post links to checkout page to increase conversion. Or at least that was the intent of it. However, this is not a small purchase and I think they lose even more by sending them…

OP here. I am not in any way affiliated with the Macaw team, I'm just a fan that was closely watching. The reason I linked to the checkout page was that Hacker News would not allow me to submit a link to their home page because of a past submission.

I urge everybody who does not see a lot of information about Macaw here to check out http://macaw.co/. Sorry about any confusion and to the Macaw team if this was not the destination that they intended.

Re: Macaw V1 Released

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Post by eridius »

taylorlapeyre wrote: post #66
salimmadjd wrote: post #58

The team deserves a congratulation to produce and ship a decent product on both platforms in a relatively fast pace given their limited resources (they're not Adobe or MS). However, I'm critical of the site and the HN post. It seems to me the post links to checkout page to increase conversion. Or at least that was the intent of it. However, this is not a small purchase and I think they lose even more by sending them…

OP here. I am not in any way affiliated with the Macaw team, I'm just a fan that was closely watching. The reason I linked to the checkout page was that Hacker News would not allow me to submit a link to their home page because of a past submission. I urge everybody who does not see a lot of information about Macaw here to check out http://macaw.co/ . Sorry about any confusion and to the Macaw team if this was not th…

I have not experimented with HN's anti-duping, but couldn't you do something like http://macaw.co/# or http://macaw.co/?1

Re: Macaw V1 Released

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Post by taylorlapeyre »

eridius wrote: post #67
taylorlapeyre wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP here. I am not in any way affiliated with the Macaw team, I'm just a fan that was closely watching. The reason I linked to the checkout page was that Hacker News would not allow me to submit a link to their home page because of a past submission. I urge everybody who does not see a lot of information about Macaw here to check out http://macaw.co/ . Sorry about any confusion and to the Macaw team if this was not th…

I have not experimented with HN's anti-duping, but couldn't you do something like http://macaw.co/# or http://macaw.co/?1

I'm sure I could have, and I wish I could have thought of that before!

If a Hacker News admin would like to change this link destination, they are more than welcome to.

Re: Macaw V1 Released

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Post by bsilvereagle »

hadem wrote: post #53

It looks like an internet connection is required for the demo. When I try to open it without a connection, I'm told my trial has expired, even though I've never used the software. Is an internet connection required only for trial period verification or is this, always online, internet connection required, software?

> Each purchase of Macaw allows you one account. That account is used to log into the app. Users can login to the app on any machine.

I haven't purchased it, but that sure seems like an internet connection is required unfortunately.

Re: Macaw V1 Released

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Post by jacquesc »

rglover wrote: post #64

A lot of folks are hating on this but realize a few things: 1.) This is the first version. We're creeping into an era where a couple of dudes can compete with MASSIVE corporations. Expect rough edges, but give congratulations where they're due. 2.) This is the future, like it or not. I'm a developer (primarily front-end) and while I may not immediately integrate this into my workflow, I can see it becoming a staple f…

Scanning the responses on HN, I haven't read a lot of hate. Lots of constructive criticism. I'm personally looking forward to it improving and trying it out again soon.
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