I would be more impressed if they boycotted JavaScript.
OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox
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#242Kinda adorable how people keep arguing back and forth, but fail to take notes on how the actual Moz employees act or think on it. And most of them think he is entitled to his beliefs and acts, and he should not be banished for it, even if they do not agree with him.
Please, try to learn this approach, pro-gay activists.
http://bholley.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/on-brendan-eich-and-...
https://staktrace.com/spout/entry.php?id=823
http://christianheilmann.com/2014/03/31/on-hating/
http://www.twobraids.com/2014/03/the-mozilla-ceo.html
http://patrickfinch.com/2014/03/31/the-most-important-decisi...
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
Today, it's being anti-gay-rights is acceptable to lots of people. 50 years ago, being a racist was acceptable to lots of people. Would you work for or buy products from a CEO who was an unapologetic racist just because his beliefs were a product of his family/community? A good question to ask: If you think we will evolve to the point where gay rights are a given, what should we do right now ? Should we be respectful…
More likely his (assumed) belief that marriage can only be between a man and a woman stems from ignorance and his religion instead of bigotry or hate. And while that doesn't negate the harm that his donation caused: please stop comparing him to racists. You don't know Brendan, I don't know Brendan, nobody in previous threads comparing him to fucking racists or the Nazis knows Brendan. It's disgusting, please stop. >S…
Is a racist hateful? My grandmother was a racist and was a really good/kind women who dedicated much of her life to helping others (including people of color). She didn't treat other races hatefully, but she did have warped beliefs about other races- "stemming from ignorance and her religion instead of bigotry or hate" (your words).
I didn't compare him to nazis, skinheads, or other violent/hateful racists. You shouldn't equate racism with hate.
In short, I think it's a fair comparison. Right now, I don't think he's a hateful person though more information could change my mind.
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#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
Opposing gay marriage [1] is a sign of bigotry and hate, by that fact alone. It's akin to excusing white supremacists in the 1950's for segregating blacks and whites and underfunding black schools because their opinions were religiously motivated (and most claimed a religion as one of the reasons--children of Ham, and all that) and because they ignorantly believed blacks were inherently intellectually inferior. Nope,…
From a well-known gay British art critic, writer and broadcaster. Is he a hateful homophobic bigot too? Obviously he does not represent the whole gay community, but it does serve to highlight how the abusive language directed towards Brendan and the call for a boycott are a complete over-reaction. Why I will never be converted to gay marriage ...the recent institution of civil partnerships seemed to be the final nece…
Zora Neale Hurston supported segregation. Would you argue that segregation wasn't racist?
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#245Let's drag down the internet experience based on what a single person did. What retards.
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#246Isn't the whole point of america that PEOPLE DISAGREE? If you have an opinion, you are entitled to it. Your personal feelings on gay marriage should not mean that you are to be barred from getting a job where gay people also work. If, however, you go on record as the CEO of a company saying the company does not support gay marriage, then this is a different discussion. So basically he is being ostracized all over for…
You are entitled to an opinion. You are not entitled to protection from the consequences of acting on that opinion.
This is not an issue of "personal feelings".
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
Today, it's being anti-gay-rights is acceptable to lots of people. 50 years ago, being a racist was acceptable to lots of people. Would you work for or buy products from a CEO who was an unapologetic racist just because his beliefs were a product of his family/community? A good question to ask: If you think we will evolve to the point where gay rights are a given, what should we do right now ? Should we be respectful…
Wait. The guy is also the inventor of Javascript. Shouldn't everybody be boycotting that? I mean it has a lot more to do with him than Firefox does. After all, he's the CEO of Mozilla Corporation (not the Foundation), which is only indirectly connected to Firefox, but he _invented_ Javascript! What am I missing here?
Have you ever tried to program in JavaScript? It doesn't have classes but the syntax looks similar: this is actually a pointer to that.
null == false // false
!null // true
He should be exiled for inventing JS.
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#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You don't know Brendan, I don't know Brendan, nobody in previous threads comparing him to fucking racists or the Nazis knows Brendan. I know Brendan. I met him on a number of occasions while working at Mozilla and interacted with him on many more. I think the comparison to racism is completely valid. I don't think he's a bad guy (he was always quite cordial with me) but his actions caused harm to a large number of…
How is it valid? Have you talked to him personally about his beliefs? He's offered to share them with anyone he meets in person.
Fortunately for us, we have the opportunity to form our opinion of him by the actions he takes rather than the words he uses.
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#249Javascript and now this!
Why shouldn't you say something? Religion enjoys way too much freedom. A lot of people here give these discriminators a free pass for no rational reason. Horrible.
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#250Let's pick a different hot button issue. Say Eich contributed to a pro or anti gun control measure. Hell, as far as I know, he has. How many of you, who are as intensely interested in gun control/rights as people are over gay/anti-gay marriage rights, would be demanding that he step down? And if you say you would, there are hundreds of corporations actually in that position (either for or against) with whom you are p…
Reducing it to a "hot button issue" is invalid. As far as human rights goes, there's no rational way to arrive at same-sex marriages not being allowed, if heterosex marriages are.
Whereas in the US, gun ownership is enshrined in the constitution, so even if gun ownership was a major net negative, it'd still be an issue.
Just like in some countries, complete bank secrecy is a constitutional issue, so even giving the local IRS-equivalent, while demonstrably a net positive for society, becomes a "hot button" issue.
Probably the closest modern issue is being against euthanasia/suicide. It's obviously cruel to force people to suffer, and safety issues aside, it's obvious someone should be able to terminate their life in face of insurmountable suffering. Yet people will object to that on all sorts of grounds.