I find it interesting that match.com which owns okcupid works fine in firefox. So it seems they are making a statement with the smaller site that wont cost them nearly as much in traffic. I could be wrong but that is my 5sec observation.
OkCupid urges users to abandon Firefox
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#92Edit: this link works for everyone (it is provided in another submission): http://www.okcupid.com/home?mozilla_message=1 Edit 2: the Internet Exploder typo is theirs. Here is the text (for those who don't use Firefox): Hello there, Mozilla Firefox user. Pardon this interruption of your OkCupid experience. Mozilla’s new CEO, Brendan Eich, is an opponent of equal rights for gay couples. We would therefore prefer that o…
"Those who seek to deny love and instead enforce misery, shame, and frustration are our enemies, and we wish them nothing but failure."
Well that kind of bellicose chest-thumping should certainly win people over to the cause.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because there is no trivially replaceable substitute for JavaScript in the site construction, as there is for the browser.
So you're saying that even someone who once made a morally wrong decision can still be competent enough to produce a technology that could serve to become a foundational component to the web as we know it?
Have you ever seen anyone suggesting anything remotely contrary, or are you just setting up the mother of all strawmen?
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#94This is petulant and abrasive. Eich's personal politic's is only tangentially related to OkCupid business and not at all related to Mozilla's business. Also it should be obvious that Eich != Mozilla. It is very off-putting to have a company bludgeon it's user with the personal politics of it's runners.
Actually, Mr. Eich's “silent” support of legislation that discriminates against individuals is precisely the type of societal friction that Foucault hinted at. It is everyone's business. The sooner the culture makes an othered minority issue socially repugnant and less some sort of innocuous personal political belief as you hint, the greater the chance for longer term change.
Conversely, hurting Mozilla is not just hurting Eich, but hurting all the other people who work there, including the very people that OKC is defending.
So despite Eich's personal politics, Mozilla is a place where healthcare is extended to transexuals, and staffers have come out in support of Mozilla org's friendliness to non-straight sexualities, even though they don't support Eich's personal view.
http://subfictional.com/2014/03/24/on-brendan-eich-as-ceo-of...
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#96They might as well disable Javascript for all their users, while they're at it.
I would not doubt for a second that new browsers without javascript, but using other languages, will start popping up in the future simply because of this.
If something is to replace Javascript, it's going to be because of the language, not Brendan Eich.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know much about Eich, but I don't think he was working to make same-sex relationships illegal He's on record as having made a fairly substantial donation to the Prop 8 campaign. That may not be "Fred Phelps" — let alone "Uganda" — levels of anti-marriage-equality, but it's close enough for my purposes.
Then I'd say you either don't know how tragic the situation in Uganda is, or you have no sense of proportion.
I think the opposite. To consider that not allowing gay marriage is a HUGE denial of equal rights to gays.
Not just flippantly saying "They can't get married, but they're still alive, right?"
Maybe thinking that it's ALL tragic is the best point of view in moving this world forward.
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#99Mozilla released a blog post on Saturday clearly stating: > Mozilla supports equality for all, including marriage equality for LGBT couples. https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/03/29/mozilla-supports-lg... There's no evidence that Brendan Eich will bring any of his political views to the workplace; this continued backlash feels unwarranted.
They released it too late. If they had ANY clue, they'd have thought of this ahead of time. e.g. Brendan donates $2k or $5k to a gay charity requiring a public record (as the Prop 8 donation did) three months ago, someone notices two months ago, he can then stay as gnomic as he likes. Something like that. But, y’know, literally nobody in the upper echelons of Mozilla thought of this. That neither Eich or the board th…
> They released it too late.
Calls for boycott are happening AFTER it was released. I think it's the content (or lack thereof) of that letter that makes it ineffective.
> If they had ANY clue, they'd have thought of this ahead of time. e.g. Brendan donates $2k or $5k to a gay charity requiring a public record
So now we prefer lying bigots to honest bigots? That reeks so much of hypocrisy, it is disgusting.
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#100Why doesn't OkCupid take a bolder stance and remove all JavaScript from their site? Brendan invented it. I guess that wouldn't be convenient. Better to ask users to inconvenience themselves. This really isn't fair to all of the people who have worked so hard to make Firefox what it is today.
Why doesn't OKCupid take a bolder stance and give a button to all their users when they sign in, asking, "Do you support marriage equality?" If they click "no", it deletes your account. I mean, as long as you've decided this is the sort of thing your business ought to be concerning itself with...
Wonderful idea!
Somebody should cook up some javascript (yes, grumble grumble) and start a campaign to embed this on every major site.
As clicking YES is too easy for bigots to get around, another version might require signing in to Facebook, Google or Twitter and upon clicking YES, posting a public message that you support marriage equality.
Obviously any website which does not take part in this campaign is not gay friendly and should be immediately boycotted.